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The politics of apology and the laws of compensation : Comments

By Nilay Patel, published 14/2/2008

Many international conventions binding on Australia recognise a right to an effective remedy for the stolen generations: but what are the legal issues?

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It is a pity that whenever anyone has the temerity to suggest that aboriginals have done something wrong or need to lift their game that an immediate cry of racist goes up. One would expect, in a civilised discussion, that one might get some perhaps more logical, well thought out rebuttal, instead of this diatribe of name calling drivel. Come on now, lets hear something, no more of this incessant cry of racist, after all, as they used to say in my youth, "It takes one to know one."

Back in the sixties just before the referendum to include the aborigines in the general scheme of things, I was travelling on the old Ghan to Alice Springs in the company of a lady who was a missionary at the Lutheran mission at Ernabella. Understandably, she was quite keen on the fact that the natives were going to be able to access all the things to which we whites had access. I pointed out to her that this would also include access to alcohol, and I ventured the opinion that this would probably be to their detriment. My reason for expressing this opinion was guided by the observations of a friend who had worked in South Africa where the natives drank a home brew called Kaffa Beer. He said that when they were sober, they were good blokes to work with, but when they were drunk, they were downright dangerous. My friend and I came to the conclusion that the same thing would happen here. My lady companion assured me that such would not be the case, how wrong was she.

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Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:26:23 PM
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Now to put another story, just to reject my racist qualifications. A couple of years ago, I had occasion to attend the local Magistrates Court over several months. During that time, I listened to evidence in many cases of assault and crimes committed whilst driving a motor car, all brought about because of the consumption of excessive amounts of alcohol. These crimes were committed by white men. The scourge of excessive alcohol consumption penetrates all sections of society, black white and brindle, it knows no racial bounds, except that it does appear to have less effect on people of European descent.

So let us apologise to our aboriginal brothers for letting the do-gooders allow this scourge of alcohol to become available to them, and give encouragement to those who are working in native settlements to do something to discourage its consumption, by whatever means they are able to attend.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:28:05 PM
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When the pro-compensation posters come up with an actual argument rather than the childish name-calling & innuendo, wake me up please. And then there's Passy....He can't wait for the compensation to follow.... but not if it comes from his pay packet & lowers his standard of living, thank you very much. The compensation is to come from OTHER groups. Ahhh, what a surprise. I wonder how typical he is of the pro-comp lobby? He's into sweet irony, wonder if he can see it there? And if everyone thought like Passy, no comp would be forthcoming at all. More irony.
Posted by KGB, Saturday, 16 February 2008 9:00:17 PM
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OLO must surely be concerned that the level of discussion is being draffed down by rusted on racist and people who are simply not abreast to the complexities of the issues they engage in.

Its simply appalling and shameful.

Why would the sponsors of this forum want to continue having their logo's adorning its pages is beyond me.
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 16 February 2008 10:03:41 PM
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"And finally to those worried about the racists, relax. To get bothered by these spawn of cockroaches is to be trapped in game. As the reaction to the apology shows, these posters are a small antiquated group with no political future who like a spoiled child left alone for a few minutes are crying for attention. They don't have the nous politically to organise now that their hero JWH is irrelevant, like them." (Quote: Passy)

This is balm for the soul! Thanks Passy!!

It's also true.
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 16 February 2008 11:13:18 PM
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"Why would the sponsors of this forum want to continue having their logo's adorning its pages is beyond me."

To benefit from the brilliant insights & arguments offered in your posts. That's the only reason I can think of...

"if you disagree with me you are an immoral racist" - Who wouldn't be impressed with that line typed out over & over & over again?

But if OLO really is that bad, why are you guys attracted to it day in day out year after year? I mean it's not like this is the only one going. Finding your level? There is a certain comfort in being validated by like-minded online friends I guess. It remains to be seen whether the population at large thinks like you guys. I'm willing to bet you guys are well on the fringe. And you might rationalise that as a kind of top of the pile fringe. Whatever makes you happy.
Posted by KGB, Sunday, 17 February 2008 2:45:07 AM
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