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Hard to believe, but apparently even feminists can be sexy … : Comments

By Audrey Apple, published 3/1/2008

'Zoo' magazine’s latest stunt is designed not to, as it argues, appease critics but to poke fun at women who disagree with their childish behaviour.

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James H,
I don’t think you are exaggerating all that much.

The author seems to have minimal regard for anything, including boys. This article on OLO comes from the author’s blogsite, and is included under the banner of “Boys are made of slime and snails”.

http://audreyapple.blogspot.com/search/label/boys%20are%20made%20of%20slime%20and%20snails

That title given by the author is abusive and discriminatory of boys, written by a freelance journalist who (theoretically) should know better about the way they portray children in the media. It doesn’t say much for any university training she has received.

The author’s blogsite is also filled with profanity and semiliterate articles, with titles such as ”Riot Grrl”, ”F__k the world” , ”F__ked”, “People are Sh_t” etc. “

I give the author’s blogsite a vote of 0 out of 10, because of her discrimination of children, her profanity and her general standard of semiliterate articles.

Congratulations Audrey. You are a credit to feminism, to journalism and to trash media.
Posted by HRS, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 3:54:21 PM
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That is just too, too funny. Perhaps you're not familiar with blogs HRS, but I don't write mine as part of the MSM. It's a personal blog which has nothing to do with my freelance writing but which I like to think explores a range of different things that interest me and my readers. How I should then somehow feel responsible for its content as a journalist is beyond me. I have certainly never labelled the blog as being for anything specifically media related, or journalism related and can quite happily post on issues from the burqa to federal politics to how much i like to sit on my couch and watch tv in my knickers. That's the whole point of it being a PERSONAL blog.

The 'titles' you speak of aren't titles at all, but labels. As my regular readers know, my labels have always been tongue in cheek on purpose. To steal a line from an old children's rhyme as a tag for feminist posting is something that even my male readers 'get'. I think you're grasping at straws by trying to make out that I'm somehow discriminatory towards little boys.

As for your accusations of profanity, yes I have often been known to use swears and 'vulgar' language. Unlike you, I don't think the use of such language prohibits a person from being intelligent.

Frankly, I'm glad you rank my blog 0 out of 10. If anything I wrote in any way appealed to anything that's going on up in the one eyed mind of yours*, I'd be slightly worried. As Jessica Valenti has had it recently, thank you for affirming my personal faith in my politics and general beliefs.

By the way, how on earth are you offended by the label 'riot grrl'? It's a legitimate and recognised term for feminist activists. But what would I know...I hate children after all.

* oh noes! I'm abusing you by calling you one eyed! what a hypocrite, the feminists should throw me out, wait that's what we all do because we hate men and want them dead etc.
Posted by audrey apple, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 4:56:09 PM
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HRS, I just took a look at the same site. I'm afraid after your last post it's going to be very, very difficult to take you seriously.

You just performed the equivalent of watching a roadrunner cartoon, then screeched about animal cruelty.

Honestly man, get a sense of humour, ditch your anti-feminist anger for just a while and ease up a little. Sheesh.

Scroll down and read about poetry boy. Is the site still a man-hating source of evil?

The snips and snails mention is just a lighthearted heading.

Next you'll be accusing the dastardly writers behind 'Bewitched' or 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' of being some kind of man-hating feminist subversives out to destroy all that is good in the world.

To be honest, I don't see all that much of value in this article. It seems pretty obvious to me, that the makers of Zoo are entitled to write this crap, and writers such as Ms Apple are entitled to point out how vacuous it is.
There's profit to be had, so Zoo will keep doing it, and I'd be more worried if they were being censored than if they continued to produce stupid material.

Though the hardline responses to this pretty harmless article really do take the cake.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 4:57:18 PM
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Ya gotta wounder.

Is Timkins and alter ego of Audrey.

Or, is Audtrey, Timkins in drag.

Juxtapose the gender identity hangups and they sound much alike.

Sincerely,

Clarke Carrot.
Posted by trade215, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 6:07:56 PM
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TLTR, Nicely summarised. You even managed to cover Audrey's "Blogging 101 in 350 words or less" post.

"To be honest, I don't see all that much of value in this article."

The only thing I can see in this article is someone being "furious" that men are being men, while simultaneously complaining that people say she has a dislike of men.

(Using a definition of men that is the stereotypical likes-to-oogle-at-women one)

What I find truly ironic is that someone who associates themselves with a liberation movement can be so "furious" about other people enjoying the freedoms that they have.
Posted by Desipis, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 6:16:30 PM
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HRS as a child I did not like that nursery ryhme. One day my daughter wanted to read that nursery ryhme and my son said that he didn't like it.

Having children of different genders it is really apparent that boys and girls think very differently.

Rather curiously audrey also rates blokes on her site, maybe it is little more polite than rating by f*ckability, but it is still a rating system.

But then I guess it is Ok for chicks to do this, but not blokes.
Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 8:33:42 PM
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