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Mainstream Islamophobia : Comments

By Syed Atiq ul Hassan, published 7/1/2008

It is debatable as to whether the media promotes harmony and solidarity in a multicultural Australian society.

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People get quite heated about the differences between their respective imaginary friends. Even quite intelligent people walk around with very elaborate prescriptions pertaining to the character and beliefs of these phantoms!

Some historians even maintain the extreme position, that, these imaginary friends have been the cause of more war and death then the combined baser motives, vanities and foibles of mankind.

Of course, I just don't believe it.
Posted by YEBIGA, Monday, 7 January 2008 8:39:09 PM
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Islamophobia is a natural reaction to the ideolology of Islam which teaches its followers to hate non-Muslims. Islam more than a religion, it is a political ideology that invokes the name of god to justify hating non-Muslims and, as an excuse for their barbaric practices.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080106/wl_mideast_afp/irancrimejustice_080106124003

Non-Muslims must not be afraid of Islam but deal with it in a rational manner by not allowing mosques, Islamic schools to be built on any part of their neighbourhood. They must do Muslims a favour by encouraging them to leave Islam. Islam has kept Muslims in the dark and is the number one cause of trouble for Pakistan and Bangladesh today.

Main stream Islam has become, and is, a threat to social harmony all over the world. Listen to Ibn Warraq (Why I am not a Muslim?), an ex-Muslim and Tawfik Hamid (My life as a Muslim terrorist) a reformist Muslim, as they speak in point of inquiry.

Dr. Hamid explains how the average Muslim is supporting radical Islam and why mainstream Islam, having taken hold of 99% of mosques all over the world is actually radical Islam and is spreading hatred of non-Muslims.

Click http://www.pointofinquiry.org/, then click on “LISTEN”

Hasan Mahmud described how Muslims forming only 2% in some Western countries have made it difficult for parliament to deal with them. He described how main stream Islam, also called political Islam, stands as the antithesis of EVERYTHING non-Muslims. Their agenda is to destroy Western values.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ6WL8xtGtk

In 1453 Islamists ruled Christian Turkey (almost 100% Christians). In 1900, there are 22% Christians left, today it is estimated that there are only 0.3%
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/january/12.25.html
Posted by Philip Tang, Monday, 7 January 2008 10:26:59 PM
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The meaning of Islam is peace and the meaning of Muslim is obedient. Look at the basic belief carried by Islam as whole, not the people those practice it wrongfully. If the law does not permits you to harm any one and then you do so, who is responsible the man or the law. Yes you will admit that certainly a person is wrong, not the law. Same stand with Islamic laws if someone not follow those divine laws and do malicious acts, who is responsible. Same with Bible and other religious divine holy books commanded the same laws. The Muslims country what ever facing today is not the Islam is wrong but they have shattered the rules of Islam. They are carrying out there own desire to fulfill their pathetic covet, it is not Islam or Islam phobia. Similarly if someone breaks law as Christian, the Christianity is not blamed; consequently, Muslim who does wrong, Islam is not blamed. Islam let people to practice harmony not conflict. The idea here is to promote concord among Australians not discord. Every one has right to share his ideas, but in a logical way. The way the petition has been forwarded by the fellow Australians to not give a chance to breathe in an open space is totally unacceptable to any one who has been living in wonder full country like Australia. We are here to promote knowledge not ignorance. We are educated from convent schools run by missionaries in our countries. They have freedom in all walks of life to uplift the communities using their own resources. They have setup many hospitals, schools and charitable organization around the globe. No one has gone after them and ask them to close their schools. They have free right to practice their custom. Do you think it is fair not to give a chance to get Muslim kids to be educated? Last but not least, one thing is important in all Muslims runs college most of the teachers are from Christian background. Do not be afraid we are true Muslims abiding all Islamic laws.
Posted by Proud, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 1:07:31 AM
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Syed,

Whilst only a “section” of Australians “feel threatened” by, implicitly, Australia’s ENTIRE Muslim community, rather than simply “a section” of it, your failure to have written the latter only reinforces the perception that the ENTIRE Muslim community “feel threatened” by, presumably, everybody else.

Similarly, in referring to the so-called media bias against Muslims yet in favour of the Great Satan (“the media has barely exposed either the amity or the enmity between Osama bin Laden and the United States”), your implication is clearly that the media is complicit in a conspiracy against Muslims generally.

It’s the Muslim community’s fears that are the only ones attributable to any “phobia” that everyone is out to get them, namely xenophobia.

Only xenophobia could conjure up “Islamophobia,” which is utterly baseless in fact (the strongest research yet is based only on “perceptions”).

And xenophobia is the essence of “racism”.

Only those yet to overcome the tribal “herd instinct” of evolution's legacy could equate legitimate media focus on those “fanatic groups” – whom you say “are as dangerous for Muslims as they are for non-Muslims” – with a focus on ALL Muslims.

Surely you must see how transparent it is to the wider community that it is MUSLIMS who do this equating.

The wider community “openly express their hatred against Muslims in the media” not simply in response to what those “fanatics” have done. That would be indicative of the tribalism rife in the East.

Rather, such fear and anger results only AFTER the relentless DEFENSIVE POSTURE is adopted even by moderates like yourself, who relentlessly fail to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for anything negative emanating from your community.

Actually, we are sick of it! Of your ANTI-LIBERAL TRIBALISM, which any fair and reasonable human being ought to be terrified of.

Why should the West have to undergo a massive population transformation from an open to a closed society to accommodate the world’s racists, who cannot get along with one another because they only care about the “injustice” done to their own little tribes, never to the injustice done to persons in general?
Posted by Tate, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 2:50:05 AM
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“Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law. Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, i.e., becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.” (from a Muslim website)

It is a lie to say that Islam is a religion of peace. What motivates Muslims to randomly kill Buddhists in south Thailand? Kill Hindus in Kashmir? Kill Christians in Mindanao (Philippines), Egypt, Sudan,? Kill fellow Muslims in Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan and Bangladesh?

The answer is simple. Muslims are inspired by the Koran to kill non-Muslims until they are “converted” or submit to the will of allah :

“…fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”(9:5)

No wonder a person who draws an image of Mohammad is killed; Muslims who leave Islam are murdered.

The Muslim mind is imprisoned by Islam and Islamic practices. They are gripped with fear for their lives if they think of leaving Islam.
Islamic history is littered with stories of nations being forced by the sword into becoming Muslims.

Australia offers Muslims the best opportunity to break away from the cycle of imprisonment since the day their ancestors were forced into becoming Muslims.
Posted by Philip Tang, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 3:03:08 AM
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Syed said
"The fact is, the media has barely exposed either the amity or the enmity between Osama bin Laden and the United States. It has hardly exposed the fact that Osama bin Laden and Mulla Omer were, at one stage, backed by the CIA, which provided them with funds and ammunition to fight against Russian foreign forces in the name of Jihad for more than 10 years."

Excuse me?

What utter rot. If you look up the word "blowback" in the dictionary, I reckon there would be a picture of the CIA and Osama. The US funding of bin Laden has been chronicled for YEARS in mainstream press. If you aren't aware of it, you have had your head in the sand.

What I seem to have missed, Syed, was your prediction at the time that US funding of the Mujahideen would lead to 9/11 and the rest of the Islamofascist atrocities the world has seen. Where was that published? Did I somehow overlook it? The retroscope is a wonderful tool isn't it Syed? Have you ever heard of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?" The US were fighting what they perceived at the time, to be the greater threat. That's what nations do, deprived as they are of the benefit of your 20/20 hindsight.

As for the enmity bit, that is an even more preposterous statement isn't it...
Posted by stickman, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 9:38:07 AM
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