Here we go again mixing race with religion.

Islam has no race. Only 15% come from the Arabic Speaking middle East. Islam as a political religious group - not a particular race - remains the worse non-integratable group of all intakes.

I agree with Bassam that the main reason we have Sudaneese (and other African) refugees in the first place is because of the systematic Islamic religious cleansing taking place in all parts of the world.

It is no different in rural India or in war-torn Iraq. Islam does not discriminate between Jews, Christians, Hindus, or athiest humanists. Anyting non-Muslim qualifies for murder.

All the Howard government - not just Andrews - was united in mentioning the Sudaneese race as a desperate last minute attempt to re-create another Tampa episode to win the remaining red-neck Pauline Hanson votes. Everything else seems to have back-fired on them so far.

Country Gal,
You must be joking,right. You are going to ASK the Croats and Serbs and the Shia and Sunni Iraqis to leave behind their old racial/cultural hatreds and have a REQUIREMENT for immigrants to drop their race wars?

These hatreds are not kindy stuff. They involve bashings, shootings, cars burnt and damaged, guns fired randomly at buildings and intimidation of voters going to and from polls. The hatreds are centuries old and are taught to the kids from the cradle onwards. The only way to stop it here is to stop importing the perpetraitors.

The reason I keep bringing the above up and the Lebanese Muslims is because they are classic examples of migrants not integrating. Yes I saw the story on Hassam El Masri and he is a real exception. Would be good if all Lebanese Muslims were like him, we would not have a problem. But we simply cannot ignore the thousands of complaints from females about rudeness, harrassment, arrogance and dictatorial attitude of Lebanese muslim males. Or the bashings of anglo males by gangs and the lack of respect for our society, laws and standards.
I have not even mentioned the racist gang rapes or the contemptable conduct of the accused, their family and friends in court. These Lebanes Muslims simply will not integrate and, in general, have no respect for anyone else. I have no hatred toward them, it is simply the way it is and no more should be imported.

I usually do not bother with the ravings of morgan, but the reaso i have stopped using the common term of Lebs and use the correct term of Lebanese Muslims is because there are other non-muslim Lebanese the integrate well and I don't want them tainted the same. As well there are other Muslims that have integrated and are no problem.

Obviously there are different cultures of Sudanese and some integrate well and others not. We should bring in those refugees and immigrants that are likely to integrate.

The governments first responsibility is for our citizens and to act to promote a cohesive society

CG, I watched the Hassem story too, what a nice fella and family. He and his family would be welcome in my home anytime.
I wish I could say the same for other (so called real Australians) here on OLO.

Dresdener, so how long have you been a member of Stormfront? its so darned easy to spot.

Banjo: "...the reaso i have stopped using the common term of Lebs and use the correct term of Lebanese Muslims is because there are other non-muslim Lebanese the integrate well and I don't want them tainted the same. As well there are other Muslims that have integrated and are no problem"

It's nice to know that I've been able to assist at least one of our resident xenophobes just a little way along the rosd to good citizenship and community tolerance :)

C J Morgan,
Come back to earth and stop deluding yourself. The reason I stopped using the 'Leb' term was not influnced by anything you had to say.

The comment in my last post should hav read. "I usually do not bother responding to the ravings, etc. etc."

Country Gal,
For many, many years I have seen the problems of multiculturalism, with its emphasis on foreign cultures and the divisivness this has caused. I have argued strongly against it and now it has been replaced by integration which has a far stronger Aussie emphasis and will bring people closer together. However i think integration policy is also doomed to fail if we continue to allow in immigrants, that we know from experience will not integrate and have respect for others and our laws/standards. I do not give a damn about their religion, skin colour or any other physical attribute, but I do care about their ability to be part of our community. All immigrants and refugees must be subject to integration assessment.

so, today we have the report on the deportation of a man to new zealand, despite his having lodged an appeal. the federal judge hearing the appeal refers to the immigration department's actions as "utterly disgraceful".

of course, andrews is an ethical person. i'm sure we'll hear him acknowledging that his department has behaved disgracefully, and promising to make amends.