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In search of Australian values : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 8/10/2007

Cultural integration: are we to expect refugees to not only avoid committing crimes but also to avoid becoming victims of crime?

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Well, having just watched Media Watch's take on the "Sudanese gangs" story, my opinion of Kevin Andrews (and commercial TV news) has hit a new low. The irresponsibility of targetting particular ethnic groups using dodgy "evidence" is contemptible.

Rhys.
Posted by Rhys Probert, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:14:55 PM
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Banjo your lack of experience with refugees shows. As does your lack of compassion. Make your case.

Poor weak, silly little Andrews has done his masters bidding. He has vilified the Sudanese and played the race card at a time when the war in Sudan is particularly cruel and savage.

Banjo, you say you see nothing wrong with integration assessment.What does that mean,other than a statement of prejudice? Your seeing nothing wrong certainly doesn't make what you advocate right. What about we try integration assistance?

Arjay, what is this wonderful culture to which you refer? Footy players who live outside the law once the game is over? A state that invades aboriginal land as an election ploy?;that has gone to war to butter up Bush? or which keeps women and children in detention? Could your notion of Australian culture be a shade self satisfied and selfish.
Rhys, I agree with you.
Bruce Haigh
Posted by Bruce Haigh, Monday, 8 October 2007 11:05:27 PM
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Bruce Haigh and Co are a classic example of ethical purists.All reality must fit their ideology and bugger the consequences.We have over a hundred different cultures/races here and if a particular group are a serious threat to the social cohesion then they are not greater than the whole;but according to Bruce and his followers the minority trouble makers have greater rights than those who produce this surplus prosperity.So from Bruce's viewpoint ,we should become like Sudan or Zimbabwe to appease his particular ethical view of the world.

The world does not have a shortage of people,so why saddle ourselves with more problems than we can handle?
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 8 October 2007 11:40:50 PM
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Until the original citizens of this island tell us that the subsequent immigrants, all of us, have integrated, then we haven't.

Accordingly for some irrelevant Minister of some irrelevant government to accuse any immigrant of not integrating is pure ignorance.

Andrews himself has not integrated as he wears a suit and cannot throw a boomerang. Nor has he eaten a witchetty grub or suffered glaucoma, been raped by numerous male relatives, missed school, gone hungry for long periods and been drunk more often than not.

He is not an integrated Australian himself. And nor are any of you.
Posted by pegasus, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 9:32:37 AM
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Irfan

The murder of this Sudanese chap is a tragedy, but the rest of your article is all a bit rich coming from someone who follows the rantings of a caravan raiding jew murdering bigot.
"Leaving people to die", "mothers grieving for their children", "men slaughtered in front of their families", "racism", "intolerlance."
Sounds like the history of the man you and your co-religionists elevate to sainthood.
Posted by Bassam, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 9:41:24 AM
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Bassam
Your ad hominem attack on Irfan is irrelevant to the argument and does you no credit.

As I see it, the facts are

1) The Sudanese refugees who come here are mostly coming from desperate circumstances and have no hope of any decent life unless another country such as Australia is willing to accept them permanently. If some find it hard to integrate, I believe our response should be compassionate understanding and offers of help, not demonisation. And not all do find it hard to integrate - most of the Sudanese families I know are productive and valuable contributors to our community and economy.

2) Generalising about the criminal tendencies of an ethnic group is racist. Furthermore, Andrews’ attack has been shows shown to be without foundation. I believe this is despicable politics, “dog whistling” the racist and fearful in advance of the election.
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:20:26 PM
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