Pro life? You mean anti anything they don't like don't you? What about the female's life? Doesn't she have a right to use today's technology (as we all do) to make life choices?

Religion is behind most of this. "I'm right and I read it in the Bible" they shout. They use fairy tales to try and ruin women's lives.

As others have written why do these people want to stop everyone from doing things they choose when it doesn't affect them in any way.

God save us from God's self appointed disciples. Why aren't all these religious fanatics in hospital? They hear voices which don't exist don't they? That sounds like a mental illness to me. And don't accuse me of deriding mental illness, I suffer myself and have for many years.

Jolanda, your baby bonus idea sounds wonderful but many people don't marry so that the woman collects single parent pension while the man continues to work. Its fairly rare amongst the professional classes but more common amongst lower income households who get less government assistance when they get married. So the baby bonus is $20,000 which is equivalent to 2 years of single parent pension for 1 child.

Your more persistent question is harder to answer nicely. Good sex is often instinctive and when you put your brain in reverse you can do amazingly stupid things including taking risks that lead to pregnancy. Its probably an evolutionary trait that has enabled humans to overrun the planet.

So in a society that is keenly into mind altering drugs like alcohol, tobacco, cannabis, ecstasy do you think the populace is interested in denying themselves the thrill of "sex with gay abandon".

You are asking that individuals in our society remain in responsible all the time, a mantle some only assume with motherhood and other mothers never assume.

Jolanda as a non-Catholic I have no problem with abortion as I desperately try to look earnest to not to offend Catholics concerned about the lost souls of the aborted fetuses.
I have a real problem with bringing another starving mouth into the world to live a stunted life and I have a real problem with the prolific consumption and waste in our society.

Othello cat, that was hilarious ; )

Jolanda,
One of the problems is that our kids are not receiving comprehensive sex education at schools. They should be taught about all the gory details.

Another problem is that contraception is not free. It should be, especially for people on a very low income such as young students.
Many people rely on condoms only because they are cheap compared to other forms of contraception and are easily available. Relying on condoms only is a recipe for disaster.

Rather than the government spending money on silly ‘incentives’ such as bonuses for women to keep their legs crossed until married and then have babies, this money would be better spend on free contraception.
People will get married for the bonus, which are the wrong reasons for marriage and years later we'll see another increase in divorces.

If we really want to reduce abortion rates, we first need to concentrate on reducing numbers of unplanned pregnancies in realistic ways. It's clear that abstinence does not work. Look at Bush with his silly abstinence-only funding despite the high abortion rates in USA.

It’s time that people learn to understand that women are there own moral agents and that they are indeed capable of making the decision as to whether abortion is justified in their circumstances.
If the woman needs help of counselling in making this decision, she’ll ask for it. Unbiased counselling for pregnant women should be available as well. Nobody can decide whether an abortion is justified better than the pregnant woman herself.

PS Have you read that the Russian govt. gave people time off work to have sex (oops I mean to procreate) and every woman who gives birth 9 months later receives prices?

Ahh...the evil prolifers...they are really just after the oil! Oh wait. Did I mix up the left wing moonbat, insulting opponents motive talking points?

Gotta love it....86 american prolife groups oppose contraception. 86 out of how many? Thousands?

Attributing the motives of some groups to all groups is a pathetically dishonest tactic, and hardly shows a willingness to getting beyond propaganda to facts.

Lets correct some 'facts' 88% of Abortions are performed in the first trimester. However, only 16% of abortions are done before brain waves are recorded. All organs are present and functional (except the lungs) by week 8. Anyone arguing that these are just 'lumps of cells' (turnrightthenleft) is being disingenuous and would have to call themselves just a lump of cells.

If contraception stopped the implantation of a zygote into the wall of the mothers uterus, it would be considered abortion, unless you try change to a self-serving definition of pregnancy and abortion. (And requires you to believe that starving someone is not intentional homicide) However, the claim that contraception performs this function is based on a logical inference, but the scientific investigation and observation does not support this claim.

Beating up the numbers of 'illegal abortions' and such has been a tactic used by the pro-abortionists since before roe-vs-wade...You will need a little more than a report based on 'interviews with more than 67 women' to make your case about the Philippines. (Note said report does not mention 400,000 illegal abortions)

Huh?

B,b,b,but...

the church is a 'society' of its own, acting to influence its own peoples.

And the pro-my-type-of-'society'-only, free-to-choose-from-their-choices pro-choicers are up in arms.

Make up your minds.

This is free people making their own free choices on their own self serving terms. People who are free to sell out their consciousness to a 'society' a 'community' which dictates their perceptions... as ALL collectivised groups must necessarily do to exist.

Then we all quible over definitions, semantics and try to set up the terms to serve our competing interests. There's nothing new under the sun.

One group is free to preach their mantra and we are all free to ignore it, or not. l guess each group can force the other. If abortion is illegal, no one can actually force you from not getting one. Same as illicit drugs. Or internet pharmacies. There is ALWAYS a way around. ALWAYS.

This is the nature of 'society.' It forever seeks to control, regulate, limit, ban, deprive and dictate your free and natural choices. There are no such things as natural rights. One must constantly fight to reassert their free choices in the face of the'social' controls which limit ones existence. The fight to reinstate what has been taken away, to pre-empt the denial of free choice is what we call rights.

What the government and 'society' gives... it must first take away.

You are not a victim of 'society' or your received perceptions. YOU are FREE to live YOUR life by YOUR terms. This frightens the sheeple, DEEPLY. People who dont like that, can lump it. If my partner cant get an abortion here, we'll go somewhere that she can. And those who disagree can, er, did l say, lump it. Oh, and some of us can think for ourselves, act out of self restraint for self evident self serving reasons and this too deeply frightens the sheep and their herders.

Make up your minds.

Forget abortions for convenience, how about reclassification for convenience!

Anti abortionists are determined to reclassify reliable methods
of contraception as "abortifacients" in the hope of intimidating women from using such methods and ultimately banning their use if they succeed in banning abortion.

When a woman gets her period it is possible that a fertilized egg is expelled with the menstrual flow. Indeed, a large number of fertilized eggs fail to implant (God is murdering babies!).

Should women grief every time they have their period?!?