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The irrational slide to Rudd : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 12/9/2007

The gravitation towards Rudd demonstrates an irrationality steeped in ignorance that flies in the face of logic.

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Fair enough gibo. You go poll God, and let us know how that works out. I'm particulary interested in his policies on asylum seekers, Workchoices and whether Julia Gillard should stick with a short haircut or experiment with a longer one.

Meanwhile, I'll try polling other Australians. Regrettably, I haven't received an official sanction from the God ministry, so I'll have to proceed anyway.
Unfortunately it's been a few thousand years since God released any policies, and I'm afraid they're getting a little out of date.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Friday, 14 September 2007 11:30:52 AM
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As regards rationality, this seems more of a questionare about who is right and who is wrong?

It seems that Rudd is being condemned for not favouring Bush like a bosom friend, as Howard has gone close to making a fool of himself over. In fact, going by global opinion at the time regarding the unlawful attack on Iraq, and right now an action becoming even more unpopular, Howard and Blair backing Bush is proving not only even more irrational, but Rudd’s recent comments about the Iraqi campaign having proven another Vietnam, has proven very rational with most academic historians.

Furthermore, while Rudd has been condemned after Apec for keeping shy of joining in discussions with world leaders about global warming and such, the fact that he was not there as a world leader, his role there should have been only one of guided politeness, using his fluency of Mandarin as part of it, and not as some suggest as a show-off.

It could be said that Rudd’s showing of Curtin’s role in WW2, was not a show-off either, but an effort to show how Curtin and Macarthur talked together as equal tacticians, Curtin at times offering advice, not like Howard with Bush, Howard pathetically over-doing the role of a yes-man, not very fitting between two national leaders.
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 14 September 2007 7:06:06 PM
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Spot on Dresdener.The beatification of Kevin would be funny if it wasn't so sincerely held. I've never understood the Labor droogies need to canonise their leaders, and their ability to pull the wool over their own eyes. Their OTT attacks on Howards character suggest to me that they've already got the government they deserve.
Posted by palimpsest, Saturday, 15 September 2007 8:26:10 AM
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The conservatives are certainly throwing a tantrum over their almost certain defeat. Abuse and hyperbole seem all that is left to them now.

What will they do when Australia becomes wall to wall ALP?
Posted by logic, Saturday, 15 September 2007 4:20:55 PM
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Rainier

I'll never eat sausage again.

Did anyone see that telephone poll on that current affairs program that asked viewers if they would vote for John Howard or would not vote for John Howard at the upcoming federal election?

Eighty four percent, 22,750 of the 27,000 respondents, said they would vote for John Howard? So what are the real pollsters asking people? Or who are they asking?

I didn't believe the result, as for the first time in my life I'd responded to one of those things. I sms'd a yes vote on my mobile. I'd always thought these polls only represented the views of people who held strong views.
Maybe they do, but if that's the case then it raises all sorts of questions about the support for Rudd.

Why did I respond?

I am just fed up with the way the media is trying to shove Rudd and his flaws down my throat. I even find myself talking loudly at the tv during some of the more biased coverage. I reckon there are lots of people who share my disgust.

Maybe the indication to be taken from that poll is that people will react against the media attempting to engineer Rudd's election and given an opportunity they'll register their disgust. But then again it might be that only underemployed wealthy conservatives watch channel 9 on tv at 6.30 in the evening and everbody else is working harder and longer because of Workchoices.
Posted by keith, Saturday, 15 September 2007 7:12:52 PM
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This is the election the Coalition has to lose. So for once and for all, Australians will find out how shallow, how inefficient, how bloody hopeless the ALP really is.
Kevin Rudd said he would play with Howards mind, I have never heard such a strange statement from a politician before, and it is obvious that this strangeness has had an effect on the media.
John Howard is the best prime minister we have ever had, he is a statesman with vision and he is far more than the rubbery figure on the opposition bench.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 16 September 2007 1:28:03 PM
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