Banjo, it would be naive of me to believe that the groups that you speak of do not very anti social views about others often create the tensions that exist. But I also know that this pasthologising them all into one basket is wrong and ill informed and this perpetuates the same racism you 'appear' to be against.

Which is it to be, do all these groups fit within your problem defintion or just of each?

If the answer is yes, who are they?

In answering this question remember that:

Almost one half of all Australians were either born overseas or had a parent born in another country.

And-

There was no notion of Australian citizenship until the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 came into effect in 1949. Prior to that, Australians were 'British subjects'

Rainier,
It is irrelevant to me what our citizenship was deemed to be before whatever year or that half or threequarters were born elsewhere.

My concern is that our descendants have a community with minumum social problems. We have enough social problems now and we do not need to import any more. There are some identifiable groups that have shown they carry intense hatred for other groups and some that show no respect for us, our laws or our society. We are stuck with those already here and their offspring.

Don't know about a basket, but there should be a NO MORE WANTED list.

Included on that list should be Serbs and Croats, Iraqi Sunnis and Shia, Lebaese muslims and any identifiable groups/nationalities that carry out FGM,cockfighting, extortion or sex slavery. There may well be others, but that will do for starters.

I clearly blame the idealistic multiculturalism and non-discrimarty immigration policy for allowing people in with incompatable cultural habits. I accept that we may be partly to blame if we have not properly informed prospective migrants about our society before they decided to come here. If so that needs changing immediatly.

The last thing we need to leave our kids is a community with vast social problems like many European countries currently have.

Banjo,
The University of New England (UNE) recently released a study titled ‘The Social Costs and Benefits of Migration into Australia’,
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/social-costs-benefits/index.htm

Read it, it might help you dispel some of those myths or apparent problems you associate with migrants. Essentially the study found that there was no "migrant underclass", and that any anxiety about the formation of "ethnic enclave ghettos" was unfounded, furthermore "the available evidence overwhelmingly supports the view that migrants to Australia have made substantial contributions to Australia's stock of human, social and produced capital." And that most migrants – including those arriving through the humanitarian intake – have over time learnt English, acquired qualifications, and done well. Furthermore, they are generally ambitious for their children to achieve and to have better opportunities in life. So it is the second generation that enjoys most of the benefits of migration."

“There are some identifiable groups that have shown they carry intense hatred for other groups and some that show no respect for us, our laws or our society”
It must be an extremely marginalized section of the migrant community Banjo, your blowing it way out of proportion, the benefits far outweigh any perceived dangers.

Multiculturalism in the past (1970’s-1980’s) was indeed based on a separatist ideology, where cultural pluralism was perpetuating a divisive society, but the current ideal isn’t based on cultural pluralism or minority rights, but rather is based in terms of the cultural, social and economic rights of all citizens in a democratic state, and the success of this is attested to in this report.

Steady on Peachy. Are you asking people to read and consider the facts?

Next thing, you'll be expecting Banjo et all to connect opinions with facts. I know what you're up to...trying to turn them all into leftoids, eh?

C'mon, you know the game...this is a fact-free opinion forum, especially on multiculturalism and migration.

So let's have no more of that radical stuff about facts.

I thank all my God's that there is a fair sprinkling of those who continuously counter this racist bunkum.

It is racism! What else? And it isn't new. Today's target is largely those of "Middle-Eastern Appearance". Now where did that stem from I wonder? Head for Sydney and stare through the cages designed to keep them IN. Could be the answer is there...

Who did we target before?,...let me see, was it the Chinese?, then the 'Dago's'?, 'yellow peril'?;- let's not forget the Vietnamese. Boy! I bet that lot are sighing with relief, after all, they've done THEIR time haven't they?

Mind you 'this lot' are different aren't they? This lot are going to kill us all!

What kind of mindset accepts without question the deliberate climate of fear so calculatingly imposed on us? I wonder if that is REALLY the reason for coffee coloured culture intolerance?

All it did was validate racism. Make it a security issue; make it 'us and them' and it becomes OK.

...........and DON'T lecture me with more of your claptrap; I'm sick of hearing it. I've heard it all my life.

Peachy,
thanks for the link to that report. I will read it with interest. A quick glance suggests that it will be valuable to both sides of the debate, as each will be able to 'cherry pick' pieces to suit their argument, as you have done.

You state "you are blowing it way out of proportion, the benefits far outweigh the dangers" Am I peachy? Are you saying the violent clashes between the Croats and Serbs, the Sunnis and Shia never took place. In these instances people were injured, property destroyed,shots fired at buildings and 2 people were shot. That is real hatred. Should we ignore the fact that Australian girls are being tortured and mutilated by FGM and governments turn a blind eye. Lebanese muslim males continue to be abusive to females and call them whores because of their western dress. We cannot ignore the lead up to 'Cronulla' or the aftermath. At the gathering the following night at Lakemba hand guns were being openly carried. Now you say I am blowing it out of propotion!

You say MC has changed. I say it is dead and integration will take its place. Now we can move on to discuss the benefits of a discrimatary immigration policy.