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Abortion back on the agenda in Victoria : Comments

By David Palmer, published 13/8/2007

Abortion is bad and there are far too many of them. What are our politicians doing to reduce the numbers?

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Do women have rights!!??
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 19 August 2007 9:49:59 PM
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Oh my gawd! when did that happen?
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 19 August 2007 9:51:25 PM
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Aqvarivs,
I believe that there is no shortage of whining men on OLO as Yvonne pointed out. Looked at the Australian men in prison debate?

“Must be why AIDS is now spread by women and not gay men. The gay community caught on to using protection.”
Oh dear, women are spreading AIDS all by themselves. First Gay men were the cause (note: not lesbians), then women. Straight men are all innocent bystanders of course and have the sole right to whine about the spread of AIDS by others. "I didn't do it" syndrome.
According to Amnesty International, mass rape and sexual violence in conflicts drives the HIV pandemic.

Yvonne
“Celivia, love the idea of artificial wombs. Methinks the whole anti-abortion debate would then deflate like a balloon!”
Yeah, we can repeat our excellent and logical points of education and contraception till our fingers are blue at the tips, but the anti-choicers seem immune to these facts. They obviously do not want to hear it.
I was just wondering whether an artificial womb would be easier to swallow than sex ed and contraception.

Bugger, no demand after all; nobody placed an order... there goes a business opportunity down the drain (the hole in the market was a false one, call it a holy hole) which leaves me thinking the issue is more about controlling women than about saving embryos!
Posted by Celivia, Sunday, 19 August 2007 11:16:06 PM
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Col Rouge,
Stated;

“I would note, you, as an observer, have nothing at risk either physically, paternally, financially”

While I didn’t like to bring this up, all taxpayers are paying for abortions, regardless their opposition to it!
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What the pro-abortion brigade seems to ignore is that about 100,000 a year abortions hardly can be deemed to be just mistakes.
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From the horse his mouth, so to say, I heard from women themselves how it was cheaper to have an abortion then to spend their money on protective items. Just one example that we are not referring to mistakes but calculated intend to have abortions if they were to become pregnant.
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As with any medical emergency a doctor having presented a pregnant woman may have to decide to abort a child to safe the woman’s life or just let them both die. I for one see no issue with a doctor then trying to save the live he deems save-able rather then let both die.
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However,-having-abortions-such-as-to-have,-so-to-say,-a-designer-baby,-because-the-gender-of-the-unborn-baby-is-not-acceptable-in-my-view-is-sheer-and-utter-nonsense. No,-so-to-say-designer-baby-rejects killing!
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We have women arguing about their right to their own bodies and they have this to a point. For example, my wife has this unquestionable rights as at 74 she isn’t going to have any more babies. However, a woman who engage herself in activities that she knows she can fall pregnant, and so does, then I view she has by this consented to-give-up her sole right to her body and accepted the unborn child has also rights. She cannot on the one hand claim financial contribution from the father (as is legally enforceable) because he took part and so (rightfully) must be also held responsible, but then if she doesn’t like to continue with the pregnancy then somehow she can kill of the unborn child. With the legal right (to sue the father for cost) there are also obligations. The fathers obligation having to pay also gives him a right to have the child, and not that suddenly the baby is aborted.
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Avoid pregnancy if you don't want to be pregnant!
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Monday, 20 August 2007 3:24:57 AM
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I dare you to go into any ultrasound clinic and tell the pregnant women that what they are seeing in their scan is NOTHING.
Posted by M.Whitehouse, Monday, 20 August 2007 3:26:40 PM
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yvonne, you should have choked on your whine after that rewrite miscarriage to serve your purpose. "Most women posting are forever whinging about their rights, while in the year come September that I have been posting to OLO very few ever admitted to their responsibility before or after the fact." is what I wrote. Your rewrite. " 'Most' women, Aqvarivs, whinging about their rights, but neglecting their responsibilities?" Isn't even close.
Men should have a share in the responsibility for the woman they impregnated, but feminist think that is too much power over a woman so have reduced mens responsibility down to a cash transaction and the implementation of laws to ensure the mens responsibility remains soley suppling the cash. Instead of abortion first why not offer to sell the child to the man. Surrogacy laws need some refinement and clarification but would be a viable solution for some. Single fathers do very well and their children are healthy and happy. It's not like women are of any value after the delivery and can go on their merry way after the pay off. Womb rentals. Think of the boon that would be for feminist empowerment. And the end of unwanted children and any need for abortion.
Posted by aqvarivs, Monday, 20 August 2007 5:21:14 PM
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