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We are playing a dangerous game : Comments

By Brian Holden, published 3/8/2007

The media’s unrelenting promotion of a negative image of Islam and the government’s scare tactics must cease.

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Aqvarivs wrote:

>>The everyday good and faithful Muslim in truth are of no potential threat to any society...>>

You know this how?

It may be a correct assessment of the situation with regard to Islam.

Or it may not be.

But how do you know?

Can you provide EVIDENCE to support your claim?
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 5 August 2007 1:56:18 AM
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DEMOS got a mirror mate? just step in front of it for me will you mate?
You are now looking at the author of the strangest post I ever saw in OLO.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 5 August 2007 6:43:59 AM
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'Glasgow Airport Terror Suspect Kafeel Dies
Mushtak Parker, Arab News

LONDON, 4 August 2007 — The Scottish Procurator Fiscal yesterday ordered a postmortem to be carried out on the body of Dr. Kafeel Ahmed, one of the two terror suspects involved in the terror attack at Glasgow Airport on June 30.....

Because of the severity of his burns he was later transferred to the specialist burns unit at Glasgow Royal Infirmary, where doctors treating him warned that he was unlikely to survive his injuries. He spent 33 days in the unit’s intensive care ward.

Eyewitness reports suggest that the terror suspect doused himself with petrol and set himself alight. He had been detained under police guard at the hospital since the incident, in which his alleged accomplice Bilal Talal Samad Abdullah, 27, an Iraqi doctor, has subsequently been charged with conspiracy to cause explosions, and sent for trial at the Old Bailey....'

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=99274&d=4&m=8&y=2007

I don't think that we can blame the British media for causing the pyschological problems of Dr. Kafeel. Only mad people douse themselves in petrol.

So, what made Dr. Kafeel mad? Answer - conservative Islam with its literalistic interpretations of the Koran.

It is high time that the Islamic communities recognise that their religion has a problem and causes major psychological damage to some of its believers.

The media is not to blame for the likes of Dr. Kafeel. But it is high time that Islamic communities start to take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions and actively purge their faith of fundamentalism
Posted by TR, Sunday, 5 August 2007 8:10:21 AM
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stevenlmeyer, by the same knowledge and evidence that I say the everyday good and faithful Jew in truth are of no potential threat to any society. Or say the everyday good and faithful Christian in truth are of no potential threat to any society. Or can say the everyday good and faithful Buddhist in truth are of no potential threat to any society, etc. Though you will find representatives from all these faiths in prison, it is not intellectually sufficient to paint the religions criminal. That there are Islamist killing innocents for notoriety it is not intellectually sufficient to paint the religion of Islam as criminal.

The truth of good and faithful precludes ill will and faithlessness. No person of good will, a being of faith, becomes a living bomb designed to explode in the presents of the innocent. Such actions are counter intuitive and argumentative to such a mature personal philosophy. Which is probably why you don't see too many 35 year old suicide bombers living in truth with their faith. Too many questions with really bad answers. It just doesn't sell as it does to the young innocent desperately accepting of the marching song and wanting in return acceptance from his or her elders.

The longing to belonging and the heroic figure.

That is why at the core issue terrorism must be thwarted. It is the demagogues corruption of innocent youth to kill other equally innocent human beings. The whole ideology of terrorism is built upon corruption. The use of the innocent to kill innocence. Strictly evil.
And has nothing to do with religion. Islam or otherwise
Posted by aqvarivs, Sunday, 5 August 2007 8:26:53 AM
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'....And has nothing to do with religion. Islam or otherwise'

This statement is a gross exaggeration and a complete load of rubbish.

Aqvarivs, your 'God Delusion' is running even deeper than I initially thought.

In fact, I think that the Bible and Koran should come with a warning sticker like a pack of cigarettes.

That is, 'WARNING: This book may cause psychological damage if taken literally.'
Posted by TR, Sunday, 5 August 2007 10:01:06 AM
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As a drop-out oldie with Honor's in International Relations, Brian, I'm right with you.

Also with that mixed Iraqi team winning the soccer cup, I'm coming to the conclusion there is some sort of Divine Power out there trying to prove to us that it doesn't take bayonets and projectiles to bring on democracy.

Sort of fitting in with the camraderie of the mixed Iraqi soccer team, is a report in last week's Guardian about an Iraqi force calling itself the 1920 Iraqi Revolutionary Brigades, identifying itself with the 50,000 Iraqis mustard gassed by the British for revolting in 1920. T E Lawrence on the edge of a nervous breakdown broke with his friend Winston Churchill over it, who as War Minister gave the order for the murderous gassing.

Though giving the Americans a hell of a hurry-up, the force is still pledged against suicide bombing and though not much in love with either Al Qaida or Iran, or Saudi-Arabia, has organised itself into a formidable force all by itself.

But shock, not horror, is the fact that it is a mixed mob like that truly wonderful soccer team, with would you believe a Kurd as its military leader.

As a very liberal liberal part boozy former bush Christian, am starting to believe in wonderful powers coming into save us again like my mother taught me if I just prayed to Gentle Jesus Meek and Mild.

As could believe that some sort of spiritual miracle is now happening in Iraq getting Sunnis, Iraqi Shias and Kurds together, not only to work together in sport and in an anti-American fighting force, but in a future Iraqi democracy.

Might ask all interested Christians and Islamics to wish them well.
Posted by bushbred, Sunday, 5 August 2007 11:45:58 AM
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