"I rest my case!"

Ok so rest it, perhaps time for that cup of tea and a lie down
after all :)

The thing is, you missed the point.

Nutritionists will tell you that a healthy diet is one of
moderation and variety. That includes lean red meat.

What the Americans do has little to do with that. If
you go to the US, especially the deep South, you'll find that
food is generally greasy, as everything has been deep fried in
lard or tallow. Everything is supersized. Some West Australian
farmers have just come back from a US feedlot tour. According
to them, in Texas, if a steak does not completely cover the
plate, its not considered a real steak.

US food manufacturers have become specialists at grinding
things up, adding extra salt and sugar, pressing out cute little
shapes etc, then advertising the hell out of them to market them.

One of my staff once came to work with these boxes of biscuits,
which she fed to her kids. I got her to read the label.
24% fat! Not a scrap of meat in there either, just value adding
with no consideration for the consumer. Too many are mugs, thats
the problem.

Lean red meat, as part of a healthy, balanced diet, is still a
good thing. Lard is not lean red meat.

Yabby,

re:
"What the Americans do has little to do with that. If
you go to the US, especially the deep South, you'll find that
food is generally greasy, as everything has been deep fried in
lard or tallow. Everything is supersized. Some West Australian
farmers have just come back from a US feedlot tour. According
to them, in Texas, if a steak does not completely cover the
plate, its not considered a real steak."

I expect if you went to the southern US, you might find many exceptions to your hearsay opinions. As for feedlot tour, what might you expect to get served up? Crawdads?

Dickie “Your comprehension of the written word is poor as is that of your other buddies on this post who have vested interests in the farming industry.”

I have no problem with the written word, exercising a general vocabulary which would greatly exceed yours, I dare say.

However, could you explain this “vested interest in the farming industry” which you claim I have? I have no commercial of professional interest in farming. I do enjoy a steak and the produce of our farmers bounty. I moved from Europe partly because the Australian economy straddled a wider base than UK.

RE “What I have recommended is a reduction in consumption of meat and dairy products,”

What I recommend is individuals make up their own minds and don’t bother with the fads and fancies of those who seek power to direct us from their lofty pinnacles.

Re “Should you continue to insist that I am preaching then I must accuse you of similar tactics where your hedonistic motives lack any altruistic concerns for the environment, your fellow man or other species!”

Spoken by a real Pontiff in the making.

Btw, “altruism”, like compassion and philanthropy (see what I mean about vocabulary), can only ever be expressed by individual people following their own heart and is not something which they can be forced to support, that is the first great lie of socialism, “community altruism”.

Col Rouge

I did not claim you had a vested interest in the farming industry - nor do I care.

What I did say was that your buddies on this post had a vested interest in the farming industry.

Get it? Comprehend?

"if you went to the southern US, you might find many exceptions to your hearsay opinions."

Vivor, of course there are exceptions. Its like saying that men
are taller then women. In general thats true, but there are exceptions.

I in fact did go to southern US and was rather shocked lol.
Like a different country, compared to the NE. I've never seen
so many obese people in my life, many battling to walk. When
I tried to eat breakfast, one joint after the other served nothing
but greasy food. The French Bakery saved me :) No wonder people
are so obese! Yes there are some good restaurants too, but
they are the exception, not the rule in the South.

Its not hard to figure out why so many USanians, particularly
in the South, have a problem. Greasy food, rubbish food, huge
portions, all add up. In Europe the average meat portion is
around 150g. Diets are balanced. Thats the issue here.

In other words, its not meat per se thats the problem, its lard,
deep fried food, portion sizes etc, which make America the most
obese nation on earth. Sadly they have exported some of this
rubbish to Australia and sucked in some of our consumers.

On a federal government website: healthinsite.gov.au/topics/obesity, statistics reveal that nearly 60% of all Australians are now overweight or obese. Obesity tripled between 1985 - 1995.

This dilemma is costing the government $1.5 billion dollars a year with the inherent health problems which are now endemic in Australia.

Australia has 68,505 beef cattle properties with a national cattle herd of 24,725,000 and Australians eat 37kg per person each year. Of course, that doesn't include the chickens,lamb, pigs, goats, processed and smoked "plastic" meats etc.

Little wonder Brian Sherman has concerns over the carbon footprint of meat in Australia when the cattle alone, outnumber humans!

Yabby, I trust you don't visit Chinese restaurants in Australia. They tradionally use lard in their cooking!