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Factoring meat into our carbon footprint : Comments

By Brian Sherman, published 30/7/2007

Reducing meat and dairy consumption, or even better becoming a vegetarian, is an easy way to help address global warming.

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No joke...an Artist 'Evarasitti' recently served a banquet to guests of meatballs made with oil removed from his body by liposuction. Surf Google: food as art.
YUK imfeeling sick
Posted by mariah, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 11:54:18 PM
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"It appears that most accredited scientific forums on the web are concerned about the amount of atmospheric pollution released by livestock."

Sheesh, talk about specism lol. Now they get upset that some
species fart a bit, as they have for eons. Perhaps its time
that they looked at the real problem. We've gone from
a billion to 6.5 billion in hundred years. We still add 80
million people a year to the planet's population, yet many
women don't even have access to family planning.

We still have religious nuts like the Catholic Church, wanting
to ban all condoms, encouraging ever more billions of people.
Bugger em. Let my sheep fart in peace, as they enjoy their
lives... Wall to wall humans and concrete, with no space left
for other species, doesent sound like a pleasant place.

No doubt mother nature will sort it all out in the end, as
always happens. As usual, we humans will learn the hard way
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 1:53:49 PM
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Anna101

Thank you for that very interesting and informative website.

May I suggest VK3AUU calms his "bullsh-t" baffled brain and take time out to peruse the history of man's dominance and control over other species.

The last meal of Grauballe man, one of the well-preserved iron age bodies, found in a Denmark peat bog, consisted of a gruel compost of 66 species of plant seed, five of which were cultivated. It's been established that plant matter was an important part of the diet.

Archeological evidence and examination of these iron aged humans revealed that they were healthy and were taller than their future farmer descendants. Grauballe's height has been estimated at 6ft 6".

The domestication and slaughtering of sheep, goats and pigs by 8000 BC and cows by 6000 BC, saw the earliest epidemic diseases developed. Smallpox in cattle, TB in milk, flu in pigs and ducks.

Of course, due to the heinous and often filthy practices of intensive farming, new zoonotic diseases continue to wreak havoc on human and animal health and our economies.

Bird flues, BSE in cattle, ecoli diseases in cattle where new pathogens showed up in the common hamburger in the 80's.

Farmed chickens and turkeys often are so obese that the weight to their hips and legs results in these birds inability to ever stand up and they must simply wallow in their own excrement. Death comes as a merciful release to these poor critters!

The predicted increase of meat production doubling by 2050 will see the demise of the little fertile land we have left. Where to then? Mars?

However, it is likely technology will discover a solution to enable mitigation of methane released by farm animals but as history has revealed, at what price? It appears that for every technological new-age advance, to force incarcerated, intensively farmed animals to do our bidding, there has been an unpleasant reaction.

As a consequence, the chickens are coming home to roost but millions of humans still don't get it, do they?
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 2:03:59 PM
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"The last meal of Grauballe man, one of the well-preserved iron age bodies, found in a Denmark peat bog, consisted of a gruel compost of 66 species of plant seed, five of which were cultivated"

Sheesh, no wonder he died, poor nutrition :)

I remind you that our ancestors were hunters/gatherers. I've read
in some primatology literature, of female chimps swopping meat
for sex. The anthropology literature mentioned San women swopping
meat for sex. Clearly these females valued meat as a great way
to feed their offspring. Clearly these females reckoned that
picking berries was not enough to feed the offspring.

Eating meat is part of our genetic heritage, like it or not.
Reality does not go away, when you close your eyes and wish it
would.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 8:23:47 PM
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i would sugggest all those people who are concerned about your carbon footprint, and the impact of you diet on it, to simply stop eating. anything. then you will die and we will bury you all in plastic bags to prevent any gasses, greenhouse or other,from escaping.and your noble actions will not only cure global warming, but global stupidity. i'm not sam kekovitch, but you know i make sense.
Posted by fullbore, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:18:35 PM
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One wonders how to mobilise the white western middle classes to respect other species and the environment when their common perception of ecology is something to do with pandas and eating museli. Their continued zest to rape the land, increase soil degradation and water pollution is a result of the selfish interests of those seeking maximum profits and those humans, whose concerns are strictly altruistic, are seen as societal menaces.

The Bush Reich has now seen a bill passed, namely the "Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act" where those objecting to unethical profiteering through the operations from animal bloodshed, are subjected to suppression, physical and legal intimidation or prosecution and scapegoating.

In this "fair" country, Mr Costello has also advised of imminent legislation where anyone speaking out against the unethical industries of animal bloodshed and/or environmental polluters will be prosecuted through the ACCC, should industries claim a loss of profits. It matters not that those who object to environmental and animal desecration are doing so verbally without any threats of physical violence. So much for free speech!

The Amazon forests irreplaceable biodiversity is now being obliterated by the timber and cattle industries to grow soy beans to feed China's pigs and Europe's chickens.

Another dead zone is the Texas Gulf now devoid of marine life, primarily due to agricultural run-off of animal wastes from petrochemical pesticides and fertilisers from fields growing feed for livestock.

It's noteworthy that the UK's environment minister, Ben Bradshaw, has advised consumers of the hidden costs of meat and dairy consumption, part of a broad plan to reduce the ecological footprint of agriculture in the British Isles and address the issue of global warming and climate change. Let's hope the Bush and Costello Reichs don't get wind of that!

The Animal Hannibal Lecters in our society, who gluttonise over meat, may like to know that all other species who are meat eaters have intestinal tracts 3 times their body lengths. This enables the rotting flesh to pass through quickly.

On the other hand, humans intestinal tracts are 10 - 12 times their body lengths. Should one elaborate further!
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:36:09 PM
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