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If only MPs were smarter on terror : Comments

By Waleed Aly, published 25/7/2007

The Haneef case highlights the difficulties democracies have in responding to terrorism.

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Paragraphs 6 & 7 indicates his ignorance of the law and also shows that he is truly indoctrinated in the ways of the non Muslim members of the legal profession in Australia.
HANEEF is not being tried for anything as he has not been committed to stand trial under the Qld Justices Act 1886 by the Magistrate and the Bench Charge Sheet, that was lodged in the Registry with the Clerk of the Court, would not have even been signed by any Police Officer, State and Federal, this is how we do it now is the reasons given by the member of the legal profession who is appointed and proudly sitting at the Bench as a Magistrate.
If the decision to cancel the visa by the Minister is found to be an unreasonable-exercise-of-power by the Federal Court on the ground that the Minister had no evidence before him to provide the reasonable grounds, has the Minister committed an offence ?
There is nothing judicial about the process at all other that three officers of the Court (Lawyers) arguing about what should happen to the victim of the blatant abuse of power by the Federal Minister, State and Federal Police who have very little or no evidence before the alleged court exercising judicial power. In their alleged affidavit, the Police Officer JABBOUR RAMZI claims, and it appears that he intended it to be Sworn on Oath, that the sim card was a firearm, or an offensive weapon, or an explosive substance and that it was used or threatened to be used in the commission of the offence with which the defendant is charged including in the Officer's opinion he would endanger the safety and welfare of the public if released on bail.
What a pile of utter vile garbage and this is the same sick legal-system that all Queenslanders have to try and survive under. It is a legal system created by the members of the legal profession for the financial benefit of those same members because they are the only one making any money out of this shameful exercise.
Posted by Young Dan, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 4:29:43 PM
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If the secular humanist had not got their way on multi culturalism as we know it we would not be having this discussion.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 6:36:14 PM
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How refreshing Waleed, calling it in a pretty even-handed fashion. However, while these laws are necessary at present, I fear the politicians who use them - they have been in office for far too long.
Posted by perikles, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 6:55:19 PM
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What is it with "Winning Hearts and Minds" Rache? If it were just about who has the best PR, the whole Iraq War could've been handed over to an advertising agency right from the start. Reality is that a lot of Iraqis will adjust their "hatreds" according to how the war turns out. Once the Coalition has won, the unfortunate families of "collateral damage" victims will forget it. If the coalition leaves with the job not done, the victims will have no other option but to blame the coalition. That's how it always is in war.

Will bystanders become insurgents because of these accidents? Maybe, but what effect does it have on these very same bystanders when they read of the latest random mass-slaughter due to these insurgents, half an hour after witnessing the APC accident or off-course missile?

Thinking of France in 1944 or Italy at the fall of Mussolini, it seems the locals were not tempted to join the fascists (locals) running the country when the allies arrived, despite many civilians being inadvertantly killed by them (the allies). In fact, even in Iraq, arent about 90% of the insurgents FOREIGNERS anyway? Maybe I'm wrong; this last almost certainly shows that the hearts and minds of the Iraqis have ALREADY been won by the coalition. Cheers.
Posted by punter57, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 6:57:01 PM
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dee,
As I recall, the Bali bombing was in retaliation for the attack on Afghanistan.

It's also interesting that this attack on Afghanistan was announced by Colin Powell during his visit to Sydney several weeks prior to the 911 attack, and was recorded in the Sydney Morning Herald at the time.

The underlying reason behind all of this is centred on the historical treatment of Palestinians plus the support for despotic regimes in the Middle East by the USA and the ongoing presence of their military bases in Saudi Arabia since the first gulf war, as well as the perceived betrayal of the Afghanis by the USA after their war with the USSR.(They promised to help them rebuild if they fought the Russians on their behalf but opted out after the war was won. When the cold war ended, they had no further use for all the "soldiers" they had trained and are fighting them now as a result).

The effects of the economic sanctions against Iraq and the exploitation of oil resources also appears to be a factor.

It's easier to blame it all on a handful of religious fanatics and divert attention from these other issues.
Posted by wobbles, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 11:26:26 PM
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punter57 -I think this is a conflict that will span generations and the resentment will last long after the coalition leaves (if ever).
Remember it was the West who helped put Saddam into power and kept him there all those years while it suited our purposes. We even helped his Republican Guard put down a rebellion after Desert Storm because Bush Snr preferred a military coup over a popular uprising by the people. Many died then too.

It's not just the accidental killing of bystanders during the last few years but the half-a-million or so who died as a result of those sanctions. (OK it was Saddam who was withholding the medicines but the West knew it was happening all that time and did nothing. We even bribed him to buy our wheat and some of his smuggled oil probably made its way into our bowsers too.)

I think you'll find any foreign insurgents are there to fight the Coalition forces but most of the violence is home-grown with even their own police taking part in sectarian violence and murder.

It's a huge mess no matter what we do, but we will have to wear a lot of the blame.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 11:55:56 PM
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