Is this where I'm 'spose to go "OH! phew, that's ok then...so long as they aren't affiliated with Al Qaeda!"

I think the reference at the bottom sums it up.

"First published in Eureka Street on July 11, *20007*."

To the author of this article PART I -

It is important to understand, however, that foremost in the minds of many of these students, and parents, is defending Islam, not killing non-Muslims: something which, for some, becomes necessary in their “endeavours”."
That is pathetic. How does killing on mass innocent people ever become necessary? Even the US and British armies, while constantly criticized for killing innocent civilians, try their hardest to avoid killing innocent people and when they do it usually because the enemy deliberately place themselves in amongst the civilians so that when the US or British do inevitabley kill or maim innocent civilians then they can use it for their PR campaigns and give it to CHomsky and Pilger for their "reliable" statistics.

"Before extremists commit an act of violence, it is not easy to distinguish them from other Muslims."
Yes, this is precisely the problem: most Muslims have the same ideology of racism and hate, and due to a supremicism in their attitude their cultures remain desolate as they don't like to absorb foreign ideas and cultures the way that the Europeans did when they absorbed the Ancient Greek and Roman science and culture and then added their own to it.

To the author of this article PART II -

"JI has generally been described as linked to al-Qaida. It is questionable how true this might be."
You at least admit that "There may be ideological sympathy on the part of JI for al-Qaida". There doesn't need to be any actual financial link with other groups such as al-Qaida, since they all have the same violently (and vile) anti-Western philosophy based, not on genuine issues of morality as they claim (because immorality in terms of crime and corruption is higher in their cultures and countries than it is in the West- this is why the West has medicare, the dole, democracy, due process, help for the homeless and mentally ill whereas in all Muslim nations these things don't exist , because they are generally immoral, selfish, and have no empathy - no regard for others) but simple hatred and racsim of the "other" due to a strong tribal metality that is bred in the very philosophy of Islam. Just look at any major Islamic figure (especially the Prophet himself) and you will see that disrespect for others (dimmhitude and jidza for e.g., or kafir being tantamount to dirt, urine and feaces as is written in the holy books of Islam). Until we in the West start to realize that it isn't a matter of trying to understand the cell structures of these terrorists or whether this group is similar to that group, but that these people are driven by extreme hate, racism, fuelled by their Islamic supremecist attitudes which result in a severe jealousy of Western culture and its achievements. This is especially true since Islam sees itself as at least an equal in history to the West, and now due to the pressures of globalization and increased communication networks, many Islamic people have awoken to the fact that their culture and civilization has no achievements of its own, and they are driven mad with hatred and fury.

I think this leftwing author is getting a bit misty eyed about what she sees as a femininist supported nationalist JI collective.

Many in JI senior leadership appear to have trained in al Qaeda (AQ) (shoot and bomb) camps in Afghanistan.

Much of the money for JI weapons comes from Saudi benefactors who willingly pay more to some Islamic schools than is required for normal school expenses... Many of these Saudi are not card carrying members of AQ (few admit their preferences) but their extremist form of Salafist Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi dovetails with AQ's aims. So these Saudi benefactors wholesomely and legally fund Jihad through funding radical Islamic schools.

AQ presents a glamourous international example for stay at home JI bombers to be. AQ's loose leadership know that al Qaeda as an organisation lacks the strength to achieve its goals of ending infidel influence in Muslim lands and overthrowing the "corrupt" regimes ruling them.

So AQ more directly operates through the media (eg bin Laden promos), Mecca returnees and the internet (eg. how to be a Jihadi sites) to influence JI members in Indonesia.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com

I don't gain the impression that the author is seeking to minimize the significance of JI in the big picture of things. She has not suggested that they are 'ok' either idealogically or socially. She is simply questioning the financial link.

Be that right or wrong, it should not be our major concern.

OUR MAJOR CONCERN should be, and in my case definitely is, the ideas which drive them and underpin their objectives.

Notice though, that they are patterned after the early muslims, and Mohammad.

*It is important to understand, however, that foremost in the minds of many of these students, and parents, is defending Islam, not killing non-Muslims: something which, for some, becomes necessary in their “endeavours”.*

What she fails to point out though, is the 'method' used by Mohammad to 'defend' Islam.

-Political assasinations of convenience. (Ka'b bin Al Ashraf & others)
-Pre-emptive raids of aggression. (Bani Al Nadir,Khaibar Jews and numerous others)
-Summary executions of those who mocked him when he was weak.(Leaders of Quraysh after a battle.... his cruelty is what triggered Ka'b bin al Ashraf to begin seditious alliances against him, so he also murdered Ka'b)
-Mass Murder of at least one tribe who opposed him. (Banu Qurayza)

METHOLOLOGY. This is very important to identify. 'Family Links'

Exactly as Mohammad did it. His top general and ally Abu Bakr who became the first caliph, -Mohammad married his child daughter at 9.
The same pattern of 'marriage for alliance' is seen in Omar (2nd Caliph) and Mohammads family ties.

So, I hope our federal police are up to speed on this, and look along family connections, marriage relationships etc.. of Indonesians in Australia who have even the slightest connection to JI.

Yes, I am so relieved to hear that, so what do I expect next, Madras’s or Marxoid Indoctrination for my children?

Who gives a woopy do; at this point it is only poignant to note, they don’t like Infidels and Kaffers and have a very nasty way of fulfilling their murderous ritual with inhuman deeds- Marxoids have never cornered that market; (For those that complain about John Howard should do some more hunting for news releases);and which Islamic entity is funding it ?; probably – most definitely Saudi Arabia.