White Warlock

"Yes, this is precisely the problem: most Muslims have the same ideology of racism and hate, and due to a supremicism in their attitude their cultures remain desolate as they don't like to absorb foreign ideas and cultures the way that the Europeans did when they absorbed the Ancient Greek and Roman science and culture and then added their own to it."

I hate to say this but it was the Christians who threw away the ancient Greek and Roman science and culture and the Muslims who reintroduced them. The Muslims also added and developed the numbering system (Arab numerals) and developed algebra.

Dear "Logic", (PART I)

you say : " hate to say this but it was the Christians who threw away the ancient Greek and Roman science and culture and the Muslims who reintroduced them. The Muslims also added and developed the numbering system (Arab numerals) and developed algebra."

So? I never said that they don't have inventions or have never added anything to the world. If it came out that way I apologize. What I meant is obvious, so it is strange that you refer to yourself as Mr/Mrs Logic. And yes, the Muslim world did inherit the ancient Greek texts that were in the Eastern Roman empire, which was conquered and converted by brutal Islamic expansion. The West eventually did absorb this knowledge, nobobdy else.

Foolishly, the West, due to religion, had no use for many books during the dark ages (although this "darkness" was never absolute, the monasteries always studied Aristotle. I am sure they still had Ancient texts also and not just the Muslims). However, the defining difference is that, whilst the Muslim world has never taken science seriously, eventually the Western world actually read the texts, studied them and then added MUCH on top. A few examples of this, since you seem to have no idea, are the ENlightenment; the Scientific revolution and the industrial revolution; modern European music such as Bach, Mozart etc.; every invention from the Wheel, tv, computers, phones, electricity, cars, space travel, planes and soooo much more.

To "Logic", (PART II)

The muslims never "reintroduced" anything. Prove me wrong. Like the dark ages of Christianity, Muslims today even are still closed minded, bigoted, and fearful of everything. This means that they - as a people - can only be destitute, poor, and franlky, stupid and uncreative.

It is obvious that you are also, painfully aware of this fact also, as you seem awfully eager to grant credit where it is not due. Imagine if a scientist came up with a brilliant invention and wrote it down, got a courier to take it to his superiors, but then suddenly died. Would it be fair or even sane to grant the merit for the discovery to the courier? The Islamic world was no more than a courier of SOME (not all of the Greek knowledge, only some) of this ancient knowledge, which for a while the West ignored due to religious ignorance. Now it is only the Islamic world that still is religiously ignorant, and it serves no justice to lie about this fact, especially to those who live in the middle of the Islamic Dark ages.

White Warlock

I shudder when I read what you say. You cannot mean it, Muslim mathematicians invented the zero and algebra, corner stones of mathematics and physics. It is hard to see how our modern world could have existed without that.

As well they produced outstanding architecture and showed an incredible grasp of engineering principles.

If you know anything about music, most of our musical instruments evolved from Arabic ones brought back by the fascinated Crusaders. The oboe, violin, guitar, percussion and bagpipes are all Arabic in origin. It is reasonable to suggest that Muslims produced more inventions in the middle ages than did the Christions.

Dream on, Plagiarised would be closer, besides you will need to read The Hadiths and that will pretty well disperse your argument.

Makes you wonder how the Ancient Egyptians got on , - or Incas with engineering, ooo bugger, that was thousands of years before Mohammad and his cronies started ripping heads off.

Most of their Advancements Alleged were learnt from India, and was also learnt from Jews- Christians during their early Occupation of Spain in the Universities. Even then, Islamic primitive tribalism dictated; and never-ending death bells sounding;
And to state otherwise is just fallacious fantasy.