The point is coach, science can't prove him right either.

And if you're going to therefore blast science, perhaps you'd better suggest another means of proceeding with discovery, or I can only assume you're advocating humanity remain in the dark ages.

Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the concept of 'Occam's Razor.'

Ah Coachy, you are confused lol. Monkeys have tails, us primates
don't and we are classified as primates, the same as chimps,
orangs, bonobos and gorillas.

Yup, going way back, you are related to those other primates, like
it or not. You share 98% of your dna with say chimps or bonobos,
which is genetically closer then say chimps are to gorillas.

Your haemoglobin is identical to that of bonobos, in all 287 units.
There is no part of the brain that you have, that they don't have,
its just a question of some bits being larger or smaller.

They have eyes, ears, noses, mouths, legs, arms, etc, much like
you have.

http://www.friendsofbonobos.org/

Have a look at the young fella on this URL, he's problably
just as cute as your grandchild :)

This is ridiculous.

That there is even a debate about which system to live under, which values are better, is laughable.

People are fleeing their cultural value systems to get to the superior western world.

When one looks at the sides fighting it is clear who is right and who is wrong. It is Muslim societies that don't allow their people to have freedom, to speak freely and openly, it is Muslim societies that either ban the bible and kill Christians, or at the very least subjugate them under the sick, twisted, immoral filth that is Sharia.

The debate is way over, long over.

What should happen now is that the superior, civilised west, should crush barbarism once and for all. Islamic values are utter filth, nobody can deny that.

All the Irfan's and Waleed Ali's do is play racist games with each other, as Irfan said recently on TV. The Turkish Mustafa Ali said '3000 potential terrorists in Sydney alone' because he's a Turk and has his own brand of Islam.

He hates Wahabi's, so does Irfan. Islam is made up of gangs see, with thugs for leaders like the new redneck Mufti - who won't denounce Bin Laden.

If I had it my way, we'd deport filth like that.

You people will never be considered Australians until you start to act like it, which means being a westerner.

Islamic values are being crushed under globalisation because they don't stand up to rationality.

There is nothing a Muslim can argue against when one says the Prophet was a filthy, murderous paedophile, because they're own scriptures paint him as such.

Islam is terrorism in it's current form, and when we get a real leader in the white house we'll take the war to Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, and all the rest of the bigoted, redneck cultures that think bashing women and cutting them up is what God wants.

You worship Satan. Mohammed said himself he thought he was posessed by demons.

Given what I know of the criminal, I believe him.

Benjamin,

The version you talk about was invented by French missonaries for purposes known to them. Muslims know Mohammed biography as per the below link:
http://www.fethullahgulen.org/content/category/4/183/4/

Or go to www.youtube.com and put deedat articles.

Peace as always,

"when we get a real leader in the white house we'll take the war to Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan,"

Ah Benjamin, thats the problem! Whilst people like you want to
take the war everywhere, whilst radical Islamism wants to take the
war everywhere, we are basically buggered. You will find extremists
on both sides of the debate, as the evidence clearly shows.

Best you all just become secular humanists and become a bit more
tolerant :)

aqvarivs

The Romans were determined to control the Mediterranean. After taking Greece they automatically acquired Israel (Kingdom of Judah) which they called Judea. The Jewish view that their conception of God accepted all good people was settled before the time of Jesus. The Romans in fact had the least success with the Jews of acceptance of their ideas as Judaism held a more enlightened view of the world that the Romans, as I am sure you as a Christian will agree. The question is whether the idea of Jesus as the son of God made for a still more enlightened view is open to debate.

Personally I think Judaism in its most modern versions is more universal than either Christianity or Islam because of its structure of interpretation. Some modern versions of Judaism are almost rationalist in their views because of its emphasis on relationships with others rather than belief or dogma. Long established Jewish views on divorce and abortion are extremely modern. Because of this Jews by and large just wany to live in peace with neighbours who accept basic human values, but this has often not been possible with creed based faiths which consider that they alone own the truth.

I mat be wrong in some of these points but Judaism is not exclusive in the sense that for example is Christianity

coach

I am at a loss to see where the trinity concept of God is present anywhere in the Old Testament.