CMO3
It would appear from what you say that the good Cardinal, and indeed also the Holy Father, are going against the teachings of their own church in failing to give succour to those who are thus afflicted.

It seems therefore that you should be applauding the Tasmanian government for their non-discriminatory legislation.

Oh but on the contrary VK3AUU; Homosexuals who want to live chastely can contact Courage, a national, Church-approved support group for help in deliverance from the homosexual lifestyle.

Courage,
Church of St. John the Baptist
210 W. 31st St., New York, NY 10001
(212) 268–1010 Web: http://couragerc.net

Paul writes in Corinthians, "No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it" (1 Cor. 10:13).

The New Testament’s forceful rejection of homosexual behavior: In Romans 1, Paul attributes the homosexual desires of some to a refusal to acknowledge and worship God. He says, "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them" (Rom. 1:26–28, 32).
Paul again warns that homosexual behavior is one of the sins that will deprive one of heaven: "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9–10, NIV).

All of Scripture teaches the unacceptability of homosexual behavior. If you reject the teachings of Christ, that is your choice, however the Church has not.

If you think your bible is a good resource for morals, then it's as I suspected - you are immune to argument. You can't argue the teachings of a book to people who know it to be nonsense in the first place.

And by the way, you are absolutely correct in stating that the bible considers homosexuality a sin. It's one of many good reasons to throw that sucker in the trash.

Spendocrat, out of curiosity, exactly where do you get your morals from? Do we as human beings get to make up our own set of morals? If so, that means we all get to have our own set of morals to follow. That being the case what about those who do not believe crimes are immoral? At what point do you finally say something is wrong? How do you determine right from wrong?

In a court of law, it takes one eye witness to bring about a conviction. In the Bible you have many who saw the risen Christ. You have many who testify to the miracles. In the Gospel there is not just ONE individual as an eye witness but hundreds of people testifying to the miracles and the risen Christ.

Based on your theology, which appears to dismiss historical records of eye witnesses, all history should be discarded. Do you accept anything that has been recorded in history? And if so, how do you get to pick and choose what is authentic and what is not? What is your expertise in theology and history?

CMO3

I note that Paul had a whole list of sins which precluded entry into the Kingdom, but the Church seem to have a fetish with some sins of the flesh (but until recently has ignored others) and in the main tends to gloss over other sins such as drunkenness. Forgiveness seems to be somewhat arbitrary too.