I have an Arts degree, with an honours in politics. I have a Bachelor of Music too. Don't have a job, yet, but I am working toward becoming a full time musician.

Arts degrees are generally good for helping you to learn to think. However, the courses are extremely biased in favour of left wing ideology, and I have ultimately found I discovered the most when I went against what I had been taught.

I think a lot of good points have been made here by all- hard work should be highly valued, as well as learning for simply for the sake of learning. Both appear to have paid off for Daniel. I must admit I am a little envious of him, but I say it without the invective of some other posters.

Why am I even bothering to enter this forum when I don't feel particularly strongly one way or another? One reason:

Ronnie,

Before you post anything on the internet, you should first take a few deep breaths. Go for a walk. Have a cookie. Clearly you argue the same way here as you do anywhere else- you deal generally in personal attacks, and you consistently contradict yourself, from post to post and within posts. You are one of the most bitter people I have come across, and contribute nothing to any debate.

Could reckon from experience, that the Humanities, though tough
on the thought processes, is good for anyone in retirement who has had to depend on a practical vocation.

In fact the Murdoch School of Humanities does allow for correspondence, its courses or topics, mostly for retirees, most of them free or at low cost.

Certainly these days with thoughts of conflict right at our Aussie doorsteps, many working Australians could still find time to do correspondence courses, mainly to get a more balanced point of view, rather than they get through the media, especially in WA, were we only have one daily paper, the editor at present simply playing political potshots with whoever he doesn't like.

There is also the problem of retired students getting too smart and alluding to a dumb public, which might be a good idea to mix the social sciences with talking about sport, which so often proves a good social leveller.

Dozer says: "Clearly you argue the same way here as you do anywhere else- you deal generally in personal attacks..." And your fellow travellers Happy Bullet, JamesH, Daniel06, et al and all the other nasty OLO posters, particularly in the anti-feminist lobby don't? Go back and check out their (and your) vitriolic personal attacks and gross misrepresentations which outweigh and outnumber my little digs many fold; while you're there you might use your research skills to identify your own bias. Oh that's correct - that subjectivity has you locked in to believing your own, as a consequence, uneducated position. You lot get nasty but get sooky when others’ counter your spite.

Daniel06 says I'm predictable, so therefore, I must be consistent which negates your (Dozer) argument - given Daniel06 knows it all.

wre: I think that there is a place in uni for the Humanities. I think, the discipline should be, in part, integrated into some of the remaining more (supposedly) vocational courses.

USA’s degrees are over four years with the first year covering English, History and some arts-type areas. My son did film, English, American history along side physics and maths. The prerequisites give students a better grounding for further study and citizenship. I think this could also be helpful in Australia. I don’t think that it is the absolute end of Humanities at QUT – I think we’ll see a more effective use of the disciplines.

Feminists: I forgot to mention that an in-law of mine gained her BA later in life. When she was at high school she was the top of the class and has very high IQ; but they gave the one scholarship on offer to the next best because he was a he. Thank God (or goodness) for feminists who’ve helped to lessen such sexist discrimination.

Bushbred. Your posts are articulate and sensible and show a level of maturity that may have less to do with your education and more to do with your life experiences. Daniel06’s ageism is a fear reaction – nature’s law (or God’s decree) says there we all must go.

Daniel06 says: "If Humanities Degrees churn out "idiots" then by default you have just called yourself and another member of your family an idiot as you yourselves have a Humanities Degrees. Thats the only catch 22 I can see Rony ron ron boy."

Daniel06 I never said that the Humanities churn out "idiots" - you did. I was quoting you and referring to your opinion. You referred to me as an "idiot" many times when you thought I was uneducated and produced your qualifications as proof that you must be correct and I an idiot.. You seem to have a lot of trouble with thinking processes that require more than one uptake.

Waanker you are for sure. However, you know very well that it wasn’t about masturbation but your attitude. A waanker is a “contemptible and ineffectual” person according to the dictionary (the spelling error is because OLO regards the word as a profanity-interesting how the moderators don't feel that your misrepresentations and name-calling are profane).

In relation to your attitude to the uneducated (and the educated), women, people who disagree with you, older folk, etc. you fit the criteria. You have proven to be a very arrogant, deceptive and dishonest person Daniel06 and it will catch up with you.