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Why Hilali must go, and go now : Comments

By Manny Waks, published 17/4/2007

Absurdity has turned into reality in the serial drama that envelops Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali.

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Hi Goodthief,

Many followers of Christianity that I know attend churches and don't believe in his divinity. They call themselves Christians as well because they believe in Jesus teachings. I don't judge.

Answering your last question, to repent in Islamic faith a person have to:

1. Stop commiting that sin.
2. Truly regret it and have/show remorese.
3. Have a firm resolve never to repeat it again.
4. If it relates to the rights of another person, then to Return the rights or property one wrongly took.

Peace,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:44:04 AM
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Oh... really?

All you dummies, here's the simple guide to entering paradise that you have been waiting for.

- - - - - - -

( A mountain of teachings not based on the truth, is nothing but futile )
Posted by GZ Tan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 1:56:18 AM
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MrGerrit,

So you were dead and then you got better. What’s the big deal?
Get over it. God isn't finished with you yet.

Pericles,

Sorry – didn’t mean to hang up on you.

You say:
>> These-statements-only-make-sense-to-someone-who-already-believes-in-them, so-have-absolutely-no-value-or-meaning-to-one-who-doesn't.<<

Absolutely – that’s why you can’t philosophy your way around “faith”.

Answer to some of your statements:

>>It-is-true-(I assume)-that-you-are-a-Christian.<< A:TRUE

>> That-also-means-that-you-are-religious,...<< A:FALSE

>> ...in-the-same-way-that-my-wife-is-vegetarian.<< A:huh?

>> To-me, you-are-all-arguing-about-something-you-believe-in<<

A:You’re right, meanwhile let’s exchange recipes.

>> My-wife-and-I-get-along-fine,-because-she-never-nags-me<<

A:I don’t blame her, I can see why...

As for:
>>Further, it-begs-the-question, “Can-Muslims-ever-live-in-a-secular-democratic-society-where-one-has-the-right-to-choose-one’s-religion?”<<

To which you come up with: >>A:Turkey<<

Have you been following the news lately re: killing of Christian in publishing house? It seems Iraq wants to follow suit and eliminate all Christians.

As for
>>… existence,-constitution-and-rules-of-engagement-of-hell/heaven/paradise/purgatory<<

Faith is at the base of my answer. I have no problem believing the author of the Bible because everything else in it is true why would I doubt some things over other things?

Except for purgatory and paradise (constructs of the Catholic and Islamic religions), Heaven and Hell are real places. The closest we can know about heaven is the terrestrial Eden which is today Iraq.

Interesting how humans make a mess of God’s creation...

Fellow_Human,

Shalom,

You said:

>>What-unites-all-Christians-is-Jesus-(pbuh)-loving,tolerant-and-human-teachings-not-what-Jesus-is.<<

According to this, Christians can also worship the Dalai Lama, Ghandi, or Buddha. Common man think before you write stuff like that.

>>There-is-no-place-is-Islamic-theology-for-the-concept-of-a-saviour(neither-the-human-prophet-king-as-the-OT,-nor-the-spiritual-Son-of-God-as-per-the-NT).<<

Amen – exactly what I was saying. Take Jesus "out" all you get is a man-made-religion - in mohammad's case; Islam.

Also…
>>the-OT-describes-the-saviour-as-a-desendant-of-King-David-and-a-human-prophet-king. For-Jesus-to-match-these-descriptions-you-have-to-give-up-the-virgin-birth<<

Bingo! A further proof that Jesus pre-existed Adam – being in everything God, He created all things, including King David. DNA tests would prove inconclusive. It’s a divine blood that was shed on the cross.

"Polygamy in Utah USA"

Sorry you miss again. Mormonism is a cult - not Christian. Please try again.

As for:

>>Allah-is-the-name-of-God-in-the-Arabic-bible<<

Only after Arabic became the official (Islamic) language of Arabia. Before Mohammad conquests Greek, and/or Hebrew were the official texts.
Posted by coach, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:16:51 PM
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The issue is that I went as far as I could and all this talk about another life after death and a lot more they are teaching in churches, religious schools, etc, none of it was noticed by me.

So, let everyone have the right to have their kind of religion but to me let them not bother me with their kind of religion.

Let everyone practice their kind of religion but let them not bother to bother me with their religious practices.

Now, if anyone conducts themselves as such, then it doesn't make any difference to me what kind, if any, religion a person wants to belong to as after all they keep it for themselves.

It is when, so to say, they are trying to shove it down the throat of others that we have conflicts and serious problems arising from it.

To me, what a person's nationality, religion and/or colour of skin might be is not relevant, as they are human beings and have every right to be respected as such.
Fanatics and religious zealots can be found in any religion and we never should condemn a religion for those who are conducting themselves in such absurd manner.

To me, any person of any religion who takes a position to be better then a person of another religion has a mental problem, not recognising that religion is a mental state every person has a right upon if he/she so desires and not to be subjected to what another person of another religion may approve of. And if the religious practices of any person causes offences against the rule of law then we simply leave it up to the relevant Authorities to deal with it in the appropriate manner.

If we all were to respect the rights of others, as we want them to respect our rights then we might all get better along and a lot of upheavel could be avoided.
Then again, all the posting about religion may then not likely have occurred either.
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Sunday, 29 April 2007 1:45:38 PM
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Pericles, Turkey is secular by its constitution but is fast becoming Islamic. The article “Less Europe, More Islam” speaks of how religious Muslims attack young girls who wear bikini and couples who drink beer in the park. (http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,446163,00.html). So Turkey is secular in theory but being 99.9% Muslims, secular Muslims can’t pursue their life-style and Christians are periodically being killed.

About 2 million Christians were killed by the Muslims in Turkey at the turn of the early 20th century (1915 to 1918) before secularism was officially adopted.
http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view?docId=ft7n39p1dn&chunk.id=s1.4.4&toc.id=ch04&brand=eschol

In case one thinks that the conflict is between Muslims and Judeo-Christian, you are welcome to read a website dedicated to the slaughter of Hindus by Muslims including how 3 million were killed in Bangladesh by Muslims as recently as 1971.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/index.html

It’s time to put a stop to world terrorism viz, Islam and all it stands for -- jihad and Shariah law
Posted by Philip Tang, Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:00:21 PM
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And how would you propose to do that, Philip?

Ban Islam? Declare war on it?

Get real.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 7:03:43 PM
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