They're quick and sensitive arn't they Bennie?
The article I thought was a criticism of the press? Where did these guys come from? PR people I would say spraying more spin.
It is only in recent years I have become anti Israel, not because I don't believe it has a right to exist but because of the bigot press who choose to ignor Israel's prolifacy in spin and defiance of the UN resolutions. Last time I counted, 20 odd resolutions completely ignored. Any other state doing so would have been condemned roundly, maybe even invaded by that facist state, the USA and its colloborators
Australia and England.
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vivy and tomasrignoli... I can't help but feel you've expressed the kind of simplistic reinforcement that the article is railing against.

Can I ask you both.. should Israel in turn be required to acknowledge Palestine's 'right to exist' (regardless of who should do it first).

Secondly - should Israel be required to define a concrete border? any suggestions on where this line should be drawn?

Answering these questions is much more constructive than reflexively taking a position and rubbishing the other side...

SOME PEOPLE SAY "YES" AND SOME PEOPLE SAY "NO".
HOWEVER, THE CITIZENS OF ISRAEL HAVE NOT HAD AN EASY TIME OF IT BUT THIS COULD VERY WELL BE THEIR OWN FAULT.
THE BALFOUR DECLARATION WORDING CLEARLY SHOWS THAT IT HAD BEEN AGREED BY ALL PARTIES CONCERNED, THAT, ISRAELI CITIZENS HAD TO SHARE THEIR PATCH WITH OTHER RACES, RESIDENT THERE AT THE TIME. THIS, HOWEVER, WAS NOT ADHERED TO, AS THE CITIZENS OF ISRAEL HAVE CLEARLY SHOWN SINCE ESPECIALLY, AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
WHY DO THEY MAKE LIFE SO DIFFICULT FOR THEMSELVES? AND WHY DO THEY HAVE OTHER COUNTRIES' FORCES FIGHT THEIR WARS FOR THEM? WELL, MOST OF THEM ANYWAY.
ALSO, THE WELL TO DO CITIZENS HAVE TRIED FOR YEARS, TO GET OTHER WELL TO DO CITIZENS TO GO AN LIVE IN ISRAEL BUT NO WAY IN THE WORLD WILL THEY LEAVE THEIR WARM, CHIC, EXPENSIVE, "KOUSHEE" APARTMENTS ON 5TH AVENUE TO GO AND LIVE IN THE DUST BOWL THAT IS ISRAEL...............
I BELIEVE, IT IS MOSTLY THE NOT SO WELL OFF CITIZENS WENT AND STILL GO THERE TO LIVE BUT NEW RESIDENTS, SUCH AS THE RUSSIANS AND BLACK JEWS FROM AFRICA ARE BEING TREATED VERY BADLY AND BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. WHY IS THAT WHEN THESE PEOPLE ARE OF THE SAME FAITH?
ALSO, IT HAS RECENTLY COME TO MY NOTICE THAT EVEN THE SUCCESSFUL "KIBUTSES" (I DON'T KNOW CORRECT SPELLING) ARE FALLING APART AND LIVING ON BORROWED TIME BECAUSE YOUNGER GENERATIONS ARE NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE IN WHAT THESE PLACES ACCOMPLISHED. THE ROT HAS SET IN THERE AS WELL AS IN OUR WESTERN SOCIETIES.
WHAT IS A VOTER TO DO?
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA WHERE..............................................

irgun killed to take other people's land, hamas kills to reclaim it.

a peaceful solution is preferable, but as long as hamas is given the choice of submission to bandits, or resistance, many people sympathize with resistance.

since the occupation of palestine has long since demonstrated the corrupt and brutal nature of israeli society, and since the american hegemony appears to be waning in power, israelis may begin to fear for the results of indefinite violent struggle without a moral basis for international support. i hope this leads to a 'south african' solution before too long. unfortunately, there is no mandela visible on the moslem side, and the unrestricted immigration of european jews has created great pressure for land. it is difficult to see any room for sanity breaking out

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It is the corruption of Eastern European nation states that has caused Jews to migrate to Israel, in the first place! Are Eastern European nations the only corrupt anti-Semitic forces operating around the globe?

Sorry, it is hard to comprehend whether an original article from LATimes or some sentences with comments published in the Forum.

In any case, such a tautology as “It is literally meaningless for a non-state to "recognise" a state” brings good to no-one because self-ruled Palestinian Authority has own president, parliament and embassies round a globe.

To finalize state-building a clear political definition is required because there never ever was any political Arab entity in Palestine, and so far Israel is only a state existing there.

And every different Arabs of Palestine ruler starts own term with bargains of more financial Western handovers by denouncing and then pronouncing Israel’s right to exist in Palestine.

Enough is enough.

A puppy-in-advance state of the Arabs of Palestine's "right to exist" is of a very question recently as terrorism spread worldwide rather than instantly threatening democratic non-Muslim world -Israel is a frontier of- with islamist nonsence.