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Israel's 'right to exist'? : Comments

By Saree Makdisi, published 19/3/2007

The 'LA Times' (and other media) consistently adopts Israel's language, giving credence to an inaccurate, simplistic and dangerous cliché.

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What is left out of the article is the fact that Israel is the wronged party here. The jews suffered invasion of their country in 640ad by Arab Muslims, who offered them dhimmi status or death. The jews have survived this for 1400 years, having fought unsucesfully on a number of occassions to gain their freedom. From 1948 onwards they have gained a measure of freedom from their former oppressors, and they wish to keep it.
Granting a right of return to the descendants of those who invaded them, and who oppressed them for 1400 years, and who have vowed to return the jews to dhimmi status would be national suicide The leaders of Israel, and those of its citizens with any memory, are right to refuse.
The world has turned upside down when oppressors can seek the right to recomence their oppression and the world's formost bodies seek to help them do so.
Posted by camo, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 10:54:05 AM
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Camo: "Granting a right of return to the descendants of those who invaded them, and who oppressed them for 1400 years, and who have vowed to return the jews to dhimmi status would be national suicide."

Suicide? Who do you think the Jews-Israelis are?

Selling this "right" itself is surely IDIOCY, silliness, foolishness, STUPIDITY at the greatest scale because targets some illiteral rednecks from deep bushlands only.

Is paying for The Hicks travelling to Guantanamo, while thousand citizens cannot factually afford elementary law assistance domestically, much different populist gest?

Thank you for your post anyway. It is so distinctive from a range of English-correct nonsense here.
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:31:03 AM
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Hello MichaelK, thanks for your kind words. I'm not sure of your question, though. Are you asking whether the Israelis who live now in Israel are jewish, or only arab?
There are around 4 million jews living in Israel nowadays. I'm told that about half that number are indigenous to Palestine. They are the remnant of the majority of the population which the Muslim Arab armies encountered when they invaded in 640 AD. There was also, of course, a substantial number of christians, as well as many other peoples. (Including many Samaritans, who have barely survived 1400 years of Islamic rule.)
The Romans named the area Palestine in 135 AD to remove the previous names, Judea, Samaria and Canaan. They chose the name Palestine after the Philistines, a sea-people who no longer had any population in the area. (Perhaps this was deliberate, to stop any existing people feeling priveledged by the choice of name.)
The peoples whom the jews encountered, coming from Egypt, were displaced by the jews, but not wiped out. They were wiped out and/ or moved by Syrian, Assyrian and Babylonian empires.
Posted by camo, Saturday, 31 March 2007 11:52:06 AM
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It is interesting historical information, very useful for comprehending reality, Camo, and not so well known around as everything supportive to a Jewish case-in Palestine or wherever.

“Suicide? Who do you think the Jews-Israelis are?” -my question referred just to a psychological state of the Jews of Israel, living under a constant pressure of annihilation by non-Jews, both neighboring and local.

As understood, a so-called “Australian multiculturalism” is growing unavoidable reality of the Jewish state, where not only religious but mere biological differences ought day-by-day more substantially to be taken into account by comprehending the situation.

This Forum is very educative for me on historical patterns especially.
Posted by MichaelK., Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:02:58 PM
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