People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming,
"I have `often` said people who wont post in their real names are cowards."
Out of interest and so I'm not mistaken would "& Intensive Farming" be your last name?

Some of the commentaries could be so right that if Rudd gets in it will be just economic rationalism with a new look. We must never forget that it was Hawke's flirting with Big Biz that first brought it in, with popular folksy and sport-minded small farmers deciding to quit, as even local bank managers agreed with the term - get big or get out.

Though the term rationalism alludes to justifiably sharing out, and compassionate commonsense we have been caught up with the big con' that economic rationalisn is simply an inclusive fable for liberty and freedom, which even Adam Smith, father of the free market gave warning that though Laizess faire is a great impetus for the growing state, the very fact it is based on greed similar to colonialism, all heads of our governments must ever be wary.

As philosophy is now regarded simply as a haven for fuit-cake thinkers and left-wing loonies, US academics and the religous right now well teamed up in a belief in an elitist non-compassionate Lord Almighty, one prays that our OLO might become the worldly means of overcoming greed and letting global commonsense get back on its feet again.

Certainly Labor now has the chance, but reckon if it does not believe in the above, it has lost the necessary - politicised intestinal fortitude.

Whoever gets in will exercise enough economic rationalism to keep the moneymakers happy. They, after all, are by far the biggest beneficiaries of the way the economy is being run.

None of this will matter for another 8 months, by which time all the commentary here will be long forgotten. In that time Howard will continue looking wrongfooted, Abbot & Co. will make fools of themselves, and provided Rudd keeps doing what he's doing, labour will oust our most divisive leader in decades.

Interesting to see how some jump to his defence. Howard's supporters look more and more like members of a personality cult; he can do no wrong etc. If there is any justice to be had he will be the first PM for generations ousted at the elections.

You's still dont get it

The money makers ,big business and pollies are not going to like The Australian Peoples Party

The pollies entitlements will be under the chop and supperanuation no more to 69% public funding for pollies

now that will be better used for the people.
These pollie entitlements have no value in the interests of the people but these pollies themselves.

Get the idea
Time to come on board or you can always have
LABOR
LIBERAL

www.tapp.org.au

The slur about not using names is a bit rich, my surname is Bell but that is another matter.
It since men first picked up a feather and wrote has been a excepted thing not to use your name in such forums.
It allows free speech and in the case of at least one poster has seen threats come from unhappy fools.
However may I again ask that we understand if Rudd is elected, it will be the will of the voters that sees this not anything else.
So many give great value to the thoughts they have and very little to others.
The debate has not yet begun but after next weekend conservatives must ask why the losses?
Why are the polls the worst ever faced by Howard?
Out of touch, out of ideas and out of office?
That name? thing can we take it your last name is as the above post says?
Or would people against everything suit?

It would be obvious that you are not talking to me belly but if you are also having ago at The Australian Peoples Party or tapp
then one should go to www.tapp.org.au

from here you would not only find my full name but my picture.

This party isnt against everything, it just seems that there is a lot of everything that has to be fixed but the pollies are right in our sights.

www.tapp.org.au

sooner all later the truth will win