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Bigots shield behind conservative facade : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 12/3/2007

Liberty and xenophobia don't make comfortable bedfellows.

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'...Women oppressed, not working, not allowed out without chapperones,no education.girls covered from head to toe at beaches, FGM common practise, arranged marriages, women reduced to baby making and child minding machines, whipped or worse for adultery...'

Wow. Didn't see any of that stuff in Indonesia.
Posted by spendocrat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 10:14:19 AM
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Spendocrat,
Perhaps you need to open your eyes or get around a bit more when overseas. Are you saying that the matters mentioned do not take place in Islamic ruled countries?
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 10:37:42 AM
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All this article does is reinforce the historical fact that religion is one of the primary causes of conflict.
Surely it is time for a public debate on the claims of religions? Why are we afraid to examine their basic premises and expose their dogmas to rational thinking?
Why should we respect a person who thinks there's an invisible man with no body, no essence no nothing, who made the entire universe and all that's in it and concerns himself with all the tiniest details such as whether a strand of my sister's hair is showing?
Religions are all irrational bundles of laws and decrees invented for the sole purpose of controlling humans. They all carry the seeds of their own destruction if they are studied rationally.
Only in a secular state can there be democracy. To think otherwise is insane.
Posted by ybgirp, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:57:37 AM
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ybgirp

I'm often amused by these 'public debates' people call for. What constitutes a public debate?

What of the furore over Dawkin's book 'The God Delusion?' wasn't that a public debate?

What of the many posts here that favour various religions, or are anti religious?

I tend to think this debate is occurring on a daily basis, though very few people tend to budge from their views.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:07:30 PM
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"In fact few may realise that the neocons were a militant leftist group (a good proportion of them Jews) that abanandoned the left for the right in the 60s/70s because they saw the left as being too soft internationally. Also a bunch of troubleosome do-gooders who won't rest until they spread democracy to all parts of the earth at all costs."

Nagh, we see where all the profits go to buy that one. Good try though: they did it from the kindness of their hearts - with all those cluster bombs, depleted uranium and white phospherous. How noble, how kind, how generous of them.
Posted by K£vin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:44:03 PM
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Oh, TRTL has moved from the other Irfan thread. Very good TRTL you can read after all. No I didn't need to read this tripe. Excellent that you picked that up. It was written clearly for you. Just you.

In a country where Muslims are supposedly trying to integrate this writer is doing his utmost to ensure that doesn't happen. Simply by writing drivel like this.

Now we have talk of a Muslim political party. Why not? Christians have many so that's fair. One thing though. How about they take that political party back to the countries where it belongs. Not here. Same to Christian parties, go away. Religion is poison and many have been sickened by contact with it.
Posted by Betty, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 1:27:06 PM
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