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Is multiculturalism really 'mushy'? : Comments

By Jieh-Yung Lo, published 27/2/2007

Multiculturalism may be abandoned as a policy but it continues to live on as a value.

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Hi Frank..
don't worry about the names thing... you did mention a few specifics in previous posts. "fool" etc.. no biggy.

The best thing to do re Australian values is to provide some references. But you can use google as well as I can so I wont mention any now.

Values:

1/ Language (English)
2/ Rites of Passage (Birth Marriage Death)
3/ Food habits
4/ Methods of greeting.
5/ Ways of speaking "Call a spade a spade"
6/ Courtship

and so it goes on.
Many of the above, which is not an exaustive list by any means are in a state of flux due to the impact of outside culture, which is fine as long as it is accepted freely by the mainstream rather than as the result of some cultural whining or protest by minorities.

Did you read my "ONE NATION, ONE RACE ONE CULTURE" post at all ?

Does that explain more of where I'm coming from ? Did it dispel some of your fears about my views? (In spite of the rather confronting headline)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 5 March 2007 6:22:10 AM
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Boazy: "...rather than as the result of some cultural whining or protest by minorities."

You mean like the incessant whining by certain Christian fundamentalists in this forum, or their laughable fantasies about engaging in public protest?

Speaking of which, how did your 'Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer' demo at Flinders St station go? What about your '10 Teams'?

Some people can talk the talk, but are incapable of walking the walk.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 5 March 2007 6:46:50 AM
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Just as an interesting aside, probably the first 'First Fleeter' to die in Sydney Cove and hence Australia was a negro.
He dived into the harbour to save a fellow convict and was himself drowned.
Now there's values for you, bravery and mateship and self-sacrifice.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 5 March 2007 7:46:42 AM
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Boaz, you keep finding new ways to avoid the issue.

Full marks for this one, referring to another thread entirely, and adding a neat piece of insinuation.

>>Pericles, your response to undeniable facts in the ‘Muslim Academics’ thread leaves your credibility if not in tatters,
at least ‘bruised’<<

You clearly learned your Christian apologetics from a master politician.

Another of your "Politics 101" habits is to tell porkies.

>>the many posts from many people where Australian values have been articulated ad nauseam.
THAT is why I don’t bother to articulate them now.. its been done to death<<

The part that you missed out was that there was absolutely no consensus on what those values should be.
For your part, naturally, you continued (and continue) as if nothing happened,
still asserting that it has to do with shaking hands and awarding trophies for "best and fairest".

>>Many of the above [values], which is not an exaustive list by any
means are in a state of flux due to the impact of outside culture,
which is fine as long as it is accepted freely by the mainstream
rather than as the result of some cultural whining or protest by minorities<<

This is in many ways the most objectionable part of your argument.

Having failed to identify the values themselves, you conjure up this image
of a "mainstream" who are somehow going to act as arbiter.

Who, exactly, do you envisage as the "mainstream"?

You, and people who think the way you do, I strongly suspect.

And the third pollie-trait is to assume that everyone knows who you are,
and has read everything you have ever written.

>>Did you read my "ONE NATION, ONE RACE ONE CULTURE" post at all ?
Does that explain more of where I'm coming from ?<<

Unfortunately it does. It brands you as an enemy of otherness,
exacerbated by your choice of "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" headline
which, after all this time, I have to conclude is deliberate.

I keep thinking of that duck.

As in, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck...
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 5 March 2007 9:02:29 AM
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The most interesting part of Mr Lo's post,to me, was that he described himself as a "Young Australian born Chinese man". Not as an Australian of Chinese descent but ...Chinese.
So we have all these "Australian" born people who identify with the 'other' country more than they do with Australia , this has led to our nation becoming a nation of tribes which will lead to tribal troubles a bit down the track.
We never had this before the term multiculture was adopted and 'Australianism' became a thing to be ashamed of.
The sooner the term multiculture is erased the better and the sooner all migrants become Australians ,we will all settle.
Any who do not wish to be Australian should not be given permanent residence.
Posted by mickijo, Monday, 5 March 2007 1:22:49 PM
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mickijo; Too Right!
Posted by Spider, Monday, 5 March 2007 7:06:45 PM
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