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The Iraq war is irretrievably lost : Comments

By Gary Brown, published 23/2/2007

Soon we will be rid of Bush, Blair and Howard. It will take a lot longer to repair the immense damage their rash adventurism in Iraq has done.

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Trashing the left, whatever "the left" is supposed to mean, is not an argument for anything. It is simply wallowing in stereotype and prejudice.
Posted by bushbasher, Monday, 26 February 2007 11:02:59 PM
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The onus of responsibility does indeed lie with Blair and Howard but in particular Bush and his heads of state, but it seems to me that in the wider scheme of things that the war in Iraq is much more complex than what punters generally focus on such as whats outlined in Brown's piece..

For one, the main precipitants of war seem to be largely driven by the American 'military industrial complex' as we were warned about by post president Eisenhower in his resignation speech. Under almost every single American presidents term in office, there has been 'military interventions' in one form or another which i have come to believe are largely driven by these massive arms industries whom exert massive power and influence and whom are generally the main profiteers of war..
Noone can say that the Iraq war was justified on the basis of 9/11, which is an idea recently denounced by Bush himself, but this argument has moved from 'what threat Iraq poses' to 'securing democracy in Iraq from "terrorists"', giving us all this renewed purpose in Iraq that was never there in the first place.. the hypocrisy is overwhelming, and its not to say that these arms industries are entirely to blame, its the move toward this militarily, imperialist processes driving us to war and for what? after world war two the UK faced either holding onto imperialistic monarchy and constraining democracy, but chose to facilitate Democratic principles.. America needs to face a similar decision
Posted by peachy, Monday, 26 February 2007 11:25:06 PM
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Please tell me again WHY Iraq is a failure. Who is killing the innocent Iraqis?
Posted by trueaussie, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 2:17:42 AM
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Johnj,
My last post was in response to your "aqvarivs, you might do well to remember that the biggest violation of UN sanctions in Iraq in the last few years was courtesy of our very own AWB Limited."
An extreme exudation of the true situation.
I posted exactly the issue with AWB. Not your plurality of sanctions.
As in "the biggest violation of UN sanctions in Iraq"
I confess it took me a second read to catch my misspell and I apologize.
It should have read, "Not, I repeat not, about any U.N. resolutions."
Posted by aqvarivs, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 7:12:22 AM
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Bushbasher ,left is the mentality that does not have the courage to face the reality of total communal survival.ie what is good for us all.Life must be tempered with both survival drives as well as social cohesion,feelings of self worth and empathy fo others.We all have a bit of left and right in us, it is all a matter of degree and at what point we decide as a community,that standards of behaviour and discipline must be upheld for our society to survive.

There are people in Iraq are trying to achieve what we are losing.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 2 March 2007 7:40:51 PM
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