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Appeal is favourable for Catch the Fire Ministries : Comments

By David Palmer, published 11/1/2007

Victoria's 'Racial and Religious Tolerance Act' 2001 remains deeply troubling and must be changed.

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Yes I agree with Palmer, Christian fundamentalists and zealots have the God given right to defame,accuse,and set the social, political and moral tone against all other religions. Just ask them
Posted by Rainier, Thursday, 11 January 2007 1:04:47 PM
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To all those disingenuous dills equating fundamentalist Christianity with fundamentalist Islam, please point to one place in the world where Christians are strapping bombs to themselves and deliberately killing civilians in the name of their religion.
Posted by grn, Thursday, 11 January 2007 3:19:28 PM
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It's worth noting that Nalliah and Scot aren't off the hook yet.

The Court of Appeal has determined that there were errors in the Tribunal's decision. When the Tribunal looks at the case again, it may determine that what Nalliah and Scot said in their seminar was unlawful vilification nonetheless.

We just have to wait and see.
Posted by w, Thursday, 11 January 2007 3:47:59 PM
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There aren't many Grn.
Christians have gotten better at it - they use planes. And generally can convince troops to do it. They're also a bit less keen on chalking it up to their religion. They do like cash and power though, I suspect that's cause they know that's where influence lies.
It's all part of the wonderful world of religious awakening.
The christians haven't been keen on the up close and personal approach since the crusades.

Note: there's a significant element of facetiousness here. I'm only, say... 23 per cent serious.

Christians also have better PR people.

That comment on the other hand was at least... 72 per cent serious. Perhaps even 74.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 11 January 2007 4:35:24 PM
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Freedom of speech is the most important freedom of them all. If freedom of speech goes we shall lose ALL our other liberties in short order.

If freedom of speech means anything it includes the freedom to criticise, lampoon, satirise, heap scorn upon and generally hold up for contempt ANY belief system regardless of any offence this may cause. This freedom needs to extend to anyone. You should certainly not have to prove your right to exercise free speech, your bona fides if you like, to the satisfaction of a judge or any other state official.

Attacking a belief system is NOT racism. If some people want to believe that a seventh century warrior merchant is "God's final messenger" or whatever, that is their right. But they should not expect to escape either scholarly criticism or outright ridicule for holding that belief.

Victoria's "Racial and Religious Tolerance Act" is a deeply troubling piece of legislation. It does not need to be "improved" or better interpreted. It needs to be repealed.

The very idea that a belief system needs any sort of protection is preposterous.

I respect the right of anybody to be a Muslim. One of our precious freedoms is freedom of religion.

BUT

I do NOT respect Islam.

Does anyone think passing a law is going to make me respect an asinine belief system?
Posted by Stephany, Thursday, 11 January 2007 5:46:02 PM
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Grn, would you like examples of where mainly Christian soldier are invading non-christian nations (like iraq) and shooting civilians?

Oh, sorry, this is called "democratisation" and does not count as a religious war does it. Cos CNN and conventional western thought tells us so! You can dress soldiers up in uniforms, get them to swear allegence to a Christian GOD cos this God favours western countries and its no longer religious. Yeah sure!
Posted by Rainier, Thursday, 11 January 2007 5:51:20 PM
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