yeah sure horus, what? you want me to advocate justice and compassion for narrow minded rednecks as well as take you all on at the same time? Puleeze!

If you showed that you could move you're toward a more humane and just perspective (shock horror) I'd back you all the way..until then consider yourself the enemy. From my lifes experiences I can't afford to think social and cultural philistines like you any other way.

You're so lucky we all tolerate you all as it stands.

Rainier

Interesting article, the main point being of course collective versus individual responsibility. The idea of religious and criminal law being a continuum is one that is parallelled in ‘white’ law as shown by the recent arrests of youths for urinating on a white sacred site – that is the War Memorial in Sydney.

However, how do you reconcile this sympathetic view with the case of the traditional man who took an under age girl as his ‘bride’ and unlawful sexual intercourse with her? (see http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/ILB/2003/20.html )

One question specifically for you: should he have been allowed to do this or not? Please nail your colours to the mast.

Keith wrote:

“You then state that "the abandonment of the rule of law, by either side, has no place in the correction of that social injustice". Again I can't find advocacy for that in what I've read. Just the opposite, in fact. Snip . Again can you point out which specific posts advocated the abandonment of the rule of law?”

David Jackmanson

“The rally will insist that DPP Clare be replaced with someone who will act on the evidence in front of them, and who will bring criminal charges 'of the highest order' against S/Sgt Hurley.”

(even if evidence doesn’t support these?)

Michael 06

“I would argue that this should not be the case here - it would be better to have this matter heard by a criminal court regardless of the lack of evidence,”

(It is fundamental that an accused not be brought before a court unless there is evidence).

Keith

“The injuries suffered did not result from a fall. How were they sustained is the question. Claire didn't answer that. The Coroner did. The bulling b.....d is as guilty as sin.”

(A trial isn’t necessary – he is guilty?)

Jolanda

“I agree that there should be a right to silence at the beginning, snip, but it shouldn't extend to the degree and level that it does now.”

(Or should the right to silence being abolished, or the silent presumed to be guilty?)

Hamlet I would abolish the right to silence. I think that for young persons they should be allowed to remain silent until they have an adult with them but adults should have to answer questions and if they refuse to then their silence should be seen as an admission of guilt.

How they can be allowed to remain silent is beyond me!

Rainier,
I wont keep you too much longer, I can see above some other posters have some pertinent points to thrash-out with you.

I am indeed beholding to you for your “tolerance”
(Heaven knows what would happen if your (most unroyal) “we” decided to no longer tolerate me.

Have you considered a duo act with Michael Richards?
You’d be very compatible -you seem to both react the same when (mentally ) challenged

And, considering your high principled stance on “racism” .
You may consider reviewing your use of the word “philistine”,
since in using it, you are perpetuating the vilification of a race.

Not withstanding the above ,
A happy & safe New year to you & your family & all other posters on OLO.

"we deserve to know the truth"
WHY . are we all experts in biology etc.
this is a democracy and there are people in positions of power
as dictated by the system. We the public, may like to see the
reports however, if we did see them then you would have a million
different opinions and then who is right.
the reports are not necessarily the truth anyway.

Dont you just love Australia?

The land of a fair go - where you need a Royal Commission to be treated fairly!