Dear Wobbles
did you look at my Biblical Reference ? Looks like I have to make my ‘hint’ a bit clearer :)

See my response to your comment in the other thread where it is more on topic mate.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=299

AQVARVIS has captured the central element in this topic though. But don’t believe him/her or me. Just read very carefully article 11 of the HAMAS charter.

QUOTE:

Part III - Strategies and Methods
Article Eleven: The Strategy of Hamas: Palestine is an Islamic Waqf

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it. ......because Palestine is an Islamic Waqf throughout all generations and to the Day of Resurrection.

UNQUOTE

C0MMENT:
We can (Like brother Keith) go on about “pre 67 borders” till the moo cows wander home, BUT.. clearly from the above quote, that would never satisfy Hamas or its supporters because the...WHOLE area of Palestine is an “Islamic”...Waqf.
Now.. clearly if it is an ‘Islamic’ issue, the core to understanding the conflict is THEOLOGICAL rather than territorial.

So, I refer you all to my rather brutal scenario above, which I might add is an ‘Islamic’ one. But the Muslims don’t like it when you turn the tables on them, yet they rejoice about re-entacting the slaughter of the Jews of Khaibar and name one of their Missiles after that infamous act of inhumanity.

Kanana, Jewish chief at Khaibar was asked by Mohammed “Where is the treasure” and was told if he did not disclose it 100% his life was forfeit. He did not disclose fully and was executed. The Jews should ask. “Do you support the Hamas Charter ? your life hangs on your response”
The Jews should also recount these events at Khaibar to any Muslim they capture to historically contextualize the judgment.

Boaz,

Can you add this link to your 'biblical research'

"Mohammed in the Bible”

http://www.jamaat.net/muhinbible/muhinbible.html

Peace,

T :)

Wow. A Christian proposing that the Israelis should literally exterminate Hezbollah (well, the males anyway) and justifies it on the basis of his understanding of Islamic texts. I think he's become even more extreme of late, as embodied in his "activist" fantasies.

"...all the males must be hunted down and summarily executed."

"I sit on Israel's side, on the side of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Mohammed and his Islamic minions are my enemy and my countries enemy. Anything which advances their cause is to be legally fought.....Spiritually,Politically, and if neccessary Militarily,to the death. "

Cripes. Boaz needs to realise that, while "Mohammed and his Islamic minions" may be his enemy, they most certainly are not the enemy of his country. Despite his fantasies, Australia is not engaged in any kind of war against Islam and Muslims. Despite our obvious failure to achieve them, our purported objectives in the current war are to locate and destroy imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction and bring democracy and peace to the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Despite certain similarities, it is not and hopefully never will be any kind of religious crusade, despite Boaz's desire for one. I think the creepily Nazi-like slogan for his personal culture war is designed to obscure his real agenda, which is an exclusively religious one. I agree with Wobbles about "culture-cleansing", except that in Boaz's utopian vision it's more like "Ein Folk, Ein Flag, Ein Jesus".

C.J. Being Christian does not mean I cannot make historical observations.
But your suggestion that a ‘Christian’ is dabbling in horrific things, is testimony to the actual point of my post which was to illuminate the reality of Militant Islam.
Your comment ‘my understanding’ of Islamic history is quite spurious and misleading, suggestive of lack of research and lack of ability to comprehend simple English. Sorry, my points are well researched and well sourced and are not simply ‘my’ understanding of Islamic documents.

EUROPE and ISLAM
Speech to Pim Fortuyn memorial Conference, Europe and Islam (Douglas Murray)

A culture which is imbued with relativism, argues Murray, can in the end find no reason to fight for its own salvation. Europe can only save itself, .. if it unambiguously stands up for its values and rediscovers absolutism in the defence of these values.

CHAMBERLAIN
In 1938, when German troops had again crossed into territory that was not theirs, the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain flew to Munich to see Herr Hitler. In his understandable desire for peace, Chamberlain agreed terms, gave up not just some ground, but the entire nation of Czechoslovakia, and returned to London

CHURCHILLS immortal words on Chamberlains return.

“You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour and now you will have war.”

COMMENT
History proved Churchill right and Chamberlain wrong.

HEZBOLLAH (Shia) and FREE PATRIOTIC MOVEMENT (Christian) are officially ‘allies’ in the attempt to overthrow the government of Lebanon. Strange bedfellows indeed, but given that this provides the Christians a bit of clout against their former Sunni and Druze enemies during the civil war, is mildly understandable.

ISRAEL and HEZBOLLAH. The above alliance is one regrettable political cost to Israel, and will not help them if Hezbollah revive their ‘destroy Israel’ path with Iran pulling the strings.
Personally, I think the FPM have been seduced by Muslim Hezbollah and are in fact “Dhimmi’s in waiting.” Once Iran starts to kick off its proxy war against Israel things will not improve for Lebanese Christians who will now become legitimate targets for Israel.

David

"....things will not improve for Lebanese Christians who will now become legitimate targets for Israel.".

You know as well as I do that, Arab propaganda not withstanding, Israel has in fact not targeted any group who has not attacked or been perceived to have seriously threatened it. This includes the days of Hagannah.

This is not to say that Israel's record is perfect but all countries at war with an aggressor, including the UK have made understandable mistakes at times.