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All this non-sense again.

A silly man who is clearly speaking on dressing modestly, and takes it a little too far, simply deserves the sack

But to those self-professed "real australians" that see this as an oppotunity to wage a holy war against something they envisage as Islam .. get a life.

Dearest Sharkfin,

So we meet again.

“why do they choose to come to a country they see as oppressing their fellowcountrymen?"

There’s a saying. It goes something like this: “beggars can’t be choosers”.

‘Its funny how all these people around the world who criticize the West are all actually breaking their necks to get into the West.’

Um. Not really. The Sheik was brought in here to preach (like many other religious figures seeing as Australia isn’t exactly a breeding ground for religious leaders being secular and all). He hardly represents Islam or its followers.

So why the generalisation? Have you conducted a census that shows the people breaking their necks to get into the “West” are the same people criticising it?

I don’t see why people CAN'T criticise Australia or the West. It is the antithesis of all the values it preaches to be uniquely Australian.

Who are you to preach about Muslim countries not letting in refugees when Australia has one of the worst refugee records in the world?
If you were escaping persecution would you run next door or would you run as far away as possible? You don’t get more isolated than Australia. Besides many refugees don’t exactly choose their final destination as if they were planning for some kind of holiday.
“The Sunni and Shiite are committing wholesale slaughter of each other over control of Iraq”

Oh yes. And the US, Australia and Great Britain played no part in Iraq’s conflict.

Well OBVIOUSLY it has nothing to do with men NOW. That is the ORIGIN and CONTEXT of the veil and the tradition. It’s also about religion – but it’s not a specific requirement by God and that’s why not all women wear it. It’s a personal choice.

Who is seeking to change the west? Pray do tell. The sheik has no power to change laws. Islam has no power to do anything in this country except stir everyone into a frenzy and create fear because people are too stupid to believe otherwise.

Can we please have some FACTS to back up these claims aqvarivs?

Flaurette, Mercurius,

That you feel the need to remind people of the past actions of the Govenor General, the Archbishop, or even a previous generation, is based on the totally unfounded assumption that those critical of members of the Muslim faith are selectively critical, rather than objectively critical.

To jump to this conclusion betrays your view that Muslims are not part of our society, but just permanent guests, since only guests customarily are not subject to the same level of critical scrutiny as the regulars.

It's becoming nauseating to hear all these tacit white supremicists shielding their pet Others from our totally justified criticisms of them. We think they are equals, not guests!

The most disrespectful act of all is to not subject someone to criticism, for it implies they are unable to transform, learn from their mistakes, do someting about it, etc. You'de only treat someone you couldn't care less about like that!

This is so irresponsible, since this discourse of victimhood brings a sense of undeserved legitimacy to these bigot's hatred of us, bigots raised to believe that they are more pure than the rest of us and as a result don't want to have "aussy" or "skip" friends but prefer to herd together into violent packs of 'rednecks' to intimidate and assault others, justifying all of their problems as the result of imaginary racism supposedly acted upon them by would be employers, the media, the schools, etc.

What laughable crap!

They believe this fantasy because of their racist herd instinct, but you condone and push it because you consider them children, incapable of autonomy.

You will be partly responsible for the next young man who's head is kicked in by ten of these middle eastern savages, for you are giving the green light to the vilest bigots that have ever walked the earth.

When a Muslim leader abuses freedom of speech, there really ARE tangible effects, people really DO justify their crimes on this basis!

The wisest thing Alla did was ban alcohol! Just imagine the convoys of December 11 but drunk!

There's no doubt Sheik was speaking about sydney gang rapes.

Now, let's look at the girl who was raped:

18-year-old white girl, was raped 25 times by up to 14 muslim men including Skaf in 2000, was being Australian.

What was her dress?
A typical dress suited for job-interview. (may be a skirt which exposed the meat (legs) to a small extent.

What was she doing?
Sitting on a train, dressed for a job interview in her best suit, and reading The Great Gatsby.

What did the rapist(s) say during rape?
she was a slut, an "Aussie pig" as they called her later, while boasting: "I'm going to f--- you Leb style."

What did the the father of rapist(s) say?
"What do they expect to happen to them? Girls from Pakistan don't go out at night."

What did Sheik Feiz Mohammad say about that?
A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world," Sheik Feiz Mohammad told 1000 people at Bankstown Town Hall last year. "Why? No one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world ... strapless, backless, sleeveless, nothing but satanic skirts, slit skirts, translucent blouses."

what did Sheik Hilaly say during that ramadan sermon?

"A woman possesses the weapon of seduction. It is she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us ... then it's a look, then a smile, then a conversation ... then a date, then a meeting, then a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years."

Now, people who defend the sheik please come up with some other stuff.