Wrong, Col. I assumed nothing, basing my criticism of you on comments that you yourself made on this thread. You reject the use of public transport and insist that you will continue to drive your car despite the contribution that makes to congestion, pollution and depletion of resources to name a few of the deleterious effects that private car use has. It does no good to point out that others may be bigger future eaters than you. When the future has been eaten, that's that. The free market and individual rights so precious to you now will be of no use to anyone anymore.

Then your post descends into the kind of boorish belligerence that you often litter OLO with, including false assumptions about me, funny after you accused me of making assumptions about you. I won't even deign to respond further to any of that stuff.

PK I express my experience of public transport. If you want to use “public transport” go ahead and use it but

Expect to pay the full economic price for that public transport service (unsubsidized by taxes or monopoly authority).

Do not expect a subsidy from private car users and I will not expect any subsidy from you, noting that the amounts of tax already levied on private motorists far exceeds the publicly borne cost of roads, transport management costs and hospital costs for car accident victims.

As for “It does no good to point out that others may be bigger future eaters than you.”

Before you dare criticize me again, I suggest you go and criticize those future eaters who I listed.

Until that time you are merely confirming your compliance to a corrupt opinion that you have seem to hang tom that you have some basis of authority over me and my actions.

You do not, you never will have. You are impotent and it shows in every post you make.

Socialism is the last refuge or the incompetent and inept. You are merely demonstrating how well you are suited to socialism.

Simply breathing condemns you as a “future eater”. I suggest you do the right thing and slash your wrists but don’t bother to criticize me, I have every right to ignore your puerile views and will.

Dear, sensitive Col. For an online bully, you don't take critcism very well, do you? "I have every right to ignore your puerile views and will." Not doing very well with that so far, Col. Your every response to me is getting more hysterical, more abusive, and more hilarious.

'Socialism is the last refuge or the incompetent and inept.' Gee, you really know how to hurt a guy, Col. Just brand him a socialist. That'll learn him.

"Before you dare criticize me again, I suggest you go and criticize those future eaters who I listed." No, I'm talking to you, Col. Don't try to hide behind somebody else.

"Do not expect a subsidy from private car users..' I expect them to pay the real cost of their car addiction through carbon taxes and congestion taxes. These aren't far off, now. Of course, you and other car addicts can always get out of your cars and stop eating the future, and you won't have to pay. Or you can try and find a 'non-socialist' country to move to where they will let you drive your car without taxes, at least while the oil lasts and the climate doesn't get so hot that the car cooks.

So, c'mon Col, don't give up on me now. You are getting to be very entertaining. And I know how much you want to have the last word. So, go on....

PK: "So, c'mon Col, don't give up on me now. You are getting to be very entertaining. And I know how much you want to have the last word. So, go on.... "

I'll second that. Col's kind of a cross between Alf Garnett, Basil Fawlty and the older Steptoe - and this forum would be impoverished without him. Of course, like those wonderful characters, we appreciate him precisely because he's so misanthropic :)

Mind you, I'm sort of comforted by the thought that I'll never sit next to him on a bus or a train. And I'll bet he flies business class, so no danger there, either.

Col

"Logic, not by pretending are or you know someone who was once given a good feed by the dept of transport of some obscure metropolis or by reading dog eared proipaganda of the travel pamphlets."

I have spent adequate time in Zúrich, Basel, Hong Kong and the San Sebastián region in Spain to know how well these systems work. In fact I worked for three years in Zúrich as an engineer (with a Degree) with a company which makes equipment for these systems. I do know how they work. Your facile assumptions show how crude is the basis for your arguments.

I also run a business. A real business supplying real goods and services to industrial users. So don't lecture me on socialism.

The Melbourne Public Transport system is now in private hands. Strange how some of the worst systems seem to be in private ownership. But in your superficial judgement this cannot be.

I do not know where yor professional skills lie but I suspect they are not in areas like engineering or medicine where it is necessary to achieve measurable results.

I think with your bombastic, insulting style you are trying to emulate Oscar Wilde, but unfortunately you lack the coherency, the language skills, the humour or sense of irony and, above all the talent.

PKs little hissing fit does not merit direct comment.

CJMorgan –hyenas attack in packs, I see you have come in to join the fray. If I throw you a bone will you scuttle away?

Logic “in Zúrich as an engineer (with a Degree) with a company which
makes equipment for these systems. I do know how they work.”

So you are here admitting, your views are influenced by your personal vested interest.

“Melbourne Public Transport system is now in private hands.”

But the culture is the same, only the shareholding has changed, not the morons who run it and have their snouts in the public trough.

“I also run a business. A real business supplying real goods and services to industrial users.”

Oh how nice for you. Do your “industrial users” include “Public
Transport” companies?

If they do, you are a hypocrite to come here, criticize me for expressing an anti-public transport view whilst your livelihood is tied to the continuance of a profligate public transport system.

My skills are in an area devoted to very “measured” results.

What you think of me is irrelevant. It is merely the bleating whimpers of the impotent.

So get off your high horse and realize this, I get to vote as you get to vote.

Whilst we are on the subject of voting, everyone should remember

BRACKS & CO LIED ABOUT THE SCORESBY “FREEWAY” AND COST THE STATE $400
million in FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS IN THE PROCESS – and for what to pay back his union masters by maliciously depriving the Eastern Suburbs of the same sort of freeway which girths the western suburbs (Western Ring Road).

VOTE AGAINST THE LABOR PARTY AND THEIR UNION BOSS CORRUPTION