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No safety for family violence victims in family law : Comments

By Elspeth McInnes, published 18/10/2006

Somewhere in Australia, there are mothers and children who are frantic with dread, anxiety, grief and betrayal.

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McInnes should really be held to account for her sexist usage that implies that all victims are women and all perpetrators are men. A person in her position should be aware or should make themselves aware of the actual statistics in the fields upon which she so frequently comments.

For example: Children in Australia are just over 25% MORE likely to suffer abuse if they live in a female-headed single parent family than if they live in a male-headed single parent family:

‘...in Victoria the rate of substantiations for children in female sole-parent families was 17.8 per 1000, and the rate for children in male-headed one parent families was 14.3 per 1000 (Table 2.12; unpublished ABS Data)’ Source:
http://www.aihw.gov.au/publications/cws/cpa04-05/cpa04-05.pdf

Take particular note that this is a rate per 1000 head of population not a total number, so the female defence that women commit more child abuse because women spend more time looking after children is corrected for.

While this does not imply that it is the female who commits the abuse ('step-fathers' are common sources of abuse) it raises a very serious point for the criterion of 'in the best interests of the children' since it clearly shows that children are significantly more safe if left with their fathers after separation than they are if they are left with their mothers.
Posted by Rob513264, Tuesday, 24 October 2006 9:09:11 PM
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Rob513264 “McInnes should really be held to account”

Agree but do not hold your breath. Remember, with “tenure” comes the right to preach to us common folk from the top of the ivory tower, regardless of how addled and defective the thinking.

Again, ACOSS is a think tank of the inept where the common denominator is a desire to interfere and micro manage other peoples lives.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 25 October 2006 8:19:50 AM
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It seems interesting to me that no-one is defending McInnes' stance.
Posted by Rob513264, Thursday, 26 October 2006 1:15:39 AM
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Social Worker Has Interesting Perspective on Domestic Violence, Child Abuse
One of my readers is a social worker who has an interesting, insider's perspective on domestic violence and child abuse. He wrote me after reading my columns on AB 2051. The social worker wrote:

"I have been a child protection investigator and currently work in a capacity where I do therapy with families in crisis, usually dealing with CPS in some way. I do not have statistics but a majority of abuse/neglect cases are related to behaviors of women, either in picking loser guys for boyfriends or they are the perpetrators.

"One of the worst abuse investigations I ever did the mother was the perpetrator, and a few years ago I worked a case where the mother beat her 4 year old daughter to death. The child had so many marks you could hardly find a place not marked-bruised, cut, or scraped.

"Regarding domestic violence, I agree that men are usually the perpetrators. However, there are many cases where the men are arrested for simply trying to get way from the wife/girlfriend punching or throwing things at him. I also often run into cases where a woman has lied about what she has said to police to keep a father away from his children in divorce/separation cases. It is a very common tactic in divorces, and in most cases the courts will take what the woman says as fact when there is absolutely no truth in the accusations. And protective orders are issued with false allegations, which results in supervised visitation or no visitation between fathers and their children, or no chance for custody of the children
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 26 October 2006 6:30:22 AM
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It seems interesting to me that no-one is defending McInnes' stance.
Posted by Rob513264, Thursday, 26 October 2006 1:15:39 AM

What is also interesting is that the arguments against examples like McInnes are becoming more sophisticated and based on evidence.

The second things is that also if blokes were not challanging these concepts the other side would be feeding off each others posts and saying how bad, terrible, horrible men are!

The usual "Ain't men awful" type of crap. whilst ignoring the perps within their own ranks.

I guess some women just have to be victims, regardless.
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 26 October 2006 6:41:06 AM
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Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 26 October 2006 6:41:06 AM
"The second thing is that also if blokes were not challanging these concepts the other side would be feeding off each others posts and saying how bad, terrible, horrible men are!

I guess some women just have to be victims, regardless."

I am one of those who thought simply stating the obvious would be enough but when I found misandrists were not giving any cred to 'the obvious' I did the research and have posted the findings of studies etc all over the place.

What I am finding now is that the misandrists have simply changed tack - in the face of strong evidence against their stand they simply leave the debate. I am afraid that the lack of response by the misandrists to this thread reflects that new strategy.

It is interesting that one of the most powerful voices for change to Custody Law is coming from the Second Wives Club, ie women who are complaining about not getting to see their step-children often enough because of unfair custody provisions.

It is interesting that the wishes of female step-parents seem more important to the culture than the wishes of male biological parents.
Posted by Rob513264, Thursday, 26 October 2006 3:05:48 PM
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