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No safety for family violence victims in family law : Comments
By Elspeth McInnes, published 18/10/2006Somewhere in Australia, there are mothers and children who are frantic with dread, anxiety, grief and betrayal.
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Posted by ROMEY, Monday, 30 October 2006 4:36:10 PM
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Posted by ROMEY, Monday, 30 October 2006 4:36:10 PM
I am sorry to hear about that. You will not get any arguement from me in that both genders are capable of abuse. Posted by JamesH, Monday, 30 October 2006 9:07:36 PM
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Yes, both genders are capable of abuse. The father in this situation has a girlfriend who hates me and the children. She is very mean to the children too. It's awful, she gives the kids alcohol. The kids are 9 and 12. The police can't prove that there was alcohol in the bottle though, so once again no charges can be laid. She won't give the kids any medicine either, not even for a headache. She smokes ciggerettes in the car whilst the kids are in there. The DCD say "lots of people do that". As my ex partner can't me any more, he hurts the children instead. The "LAWS" are written eg;child abuse. But it's all words no action. I am very annoyed with the system
Posted by ROMEY, Tuesday, 31 October 2006 12:13:34 AM
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As usual, the men's rights campaigners are consistent with their tactics that have gained them so much in the family law reform and cost so much to the victims of domestic violence-
usually protective mothers and their children but hang on- also- protective fathers. The fact is that the idea that allegations in family court litigation of children are false has also impacted cases where fathers have raised these. Now the cases where children need protection are treated equally as if the protective parent is making these allegations for strategic purposes- male or female. ( big round of applause for the men’s rights work in this area!) That does not mean that women are equally responsible for domestic violence. Domestic violence is still and has always been a gendered issue in the fact that most of the victims are female, and a lesser number of victims are male. Most perpetrators are male, and a lesser number exist that are female. Furthermore, the male victims of domestic violence fare better when they leave. Women fare much worse. Only someone with an agenda that seeks to dismiss, minimise and justify their own violence argues that males and females are equally responsible for horrific number of domestic violence in the world today. It reminds me of my 10 year old son crying because he was in trouble after hitting his 8 year old sister. His excuse then was also, "But she did it too!" Posted by happy, Tuesday, 31 October 2006 6:51:43 AM
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Women emerge as aggressors in Alberta survey
67% of women questioned say they started severe conflicts by Brad Evenson and Carol Milstone http://www.franks.org/fr01060.htm "Only someone with an agenda that seeks to dismiss, minimise and justify their own violence argues that males and females are equally responsible for horrific number of domestic violence in the world today. It reminds me of my 10 year old son crying because he was in trouble after hitting his 8 year old sister. His excuse then was also, "But she did it too!" Posted by happy, Tuesday, 31 October 2006 6:51:43 AM Did your daughter get into trouble as well? My daughter is morely likely to hit or scratch her brother than he her and she does get into trouble. If the both hit each other then they both get into trouble. Violence is unacceptable regardless of gender. You are correct happy in that those with an agenda seek to dismiss, minimize their own violence. Except it has been the feminists who have fought long and hard to minimize the violence committed by women. Erin Pizzey labeled these women as family terrorists. If you are really concerned about domestic violence then examine research which does not have the feminist agenda. http://www.mediaradar.org/index.php Linda Kelly http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/kelly03.pdf Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 31 October 2006 8:11:20 AM
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The men's rights campaigners like to move the goal posts. The issue was 'domestic violence' and what do men's rights advocates do? They do not stay focused on the issue but predictably redirect the focus off the topic-
Eg. “Did your daughter get into trouble as well?” From the study by Kelly- As the definition of “physical violence” used in the various CTS-based studies ranges from “throwing something” to “using a knife or gun,” wives arguably could compare to husbands in use and frequency of violent behavior, but not in the severity of the type of violence employed. Yet, such per category differences did not evidence that men were unquestionably more prone to acts of severe domestic violence than women. pp.798, 799 That women are also capable of domestic violence is not denied. That the majority of domestic violence, mostly severe and deadly domestic violence perpetrators is male is a fact. That many of these perpetrators end up in family court is well established. That some of these are women is known. That many of these cases involve men that have abused their wives and children is the reality. That the court doesn’t recognize abusers male or female is the distressing truth. This has happened because people who use violence are more likely people who are manipulative and therefore are in their element in the adversarial system. Now watch the posts pour in justifying male violence and employ name calling in the absence of a fair and equitable approach. Posted by happy, Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:38:17 AM
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The father even told the kids thier pets were dead. I am meant to tell the kids that it is good to go to thier fathers. I told my lawyer l can't say that. I am the only one who cares about them. No wonder there are so many mixed up teens around. When the family court make them go to there dads where they are abused. The father will not give the 9year old his asthma meds either.I think the family court needs to protect children more.It's not fair.