Spider,
Aryabhatt and other Indian Hindu Vedic mathematicians knew about Astronomy and mathematics way before [450 BC].Read about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhatt
"The world was round" was known to Aryabhatt .

The work of Al-Khwarizmi and Al-Jawhari's work mathematical and astronomical work were based on that of the Indians.This was due to the fact that there was heavy trade with India by Mediteranean regions and Europe.

lochinvar2006,

My point is that they preserved such things while the western world under the grip of a murderous Christian faith went about destroying everything. I was not claiming that they were the earliest inventers. One only has to look at the Mayan's to know that.

Remember that the Islamic nation of those days were far different from the Islamic world of today. The Muslim faith just like the Christian faith is run by whack jobs just as is the Jewish faith.

Time to stop listening to these trouble makers and start thinking for ourselves and the world would be that much better off.

Spider,

You make silly sweeping statements. Let me pick on just one.

You said: "The Christian faiths have created more harm than other faith. No religion has any right to claim to be morally and technologically superior or advanced..."

Please answer:

1. Is the Christian faith creating more harm than other faith today? If so, how?

2. Will the Christian faith create more harm than other faith tomorrow and into the future? If so, why and how?

3. The fact that you mentioned some 'positives' of Islam suggests that in your mind there is a notion something is more superior or advanced than another. Therefore you are directly contradicting your statement, is this not?

Tan,

No, I did not say that Muslims are superior, just proving a comment by a previous poster as incorrect. Also, I said that the Christian faith has created more damage. That includes the Crusades and the Inquisition where more people were killed at the hands of the Christian God than has any government. Don't twist my words to suit your hatred.

Maybe you need to open your eyes and see just how dangerous politicians like Bush and Howard are using religion to make us hate each other as they continue their craving for an all out religious war.

As for the future, only time will tell but I'm seeing a lot hate from Jews, Muslims and Christians, all craving for the blood of other faiths. One only has to look at how Christian's are harrassing Muslims and Pagans in Australia with words and violence, supported by Cardinal George Pell.

Spider

I would like to see the "Uncovered Meat" quote in the historical stories of Allah!

Spider,

Who is twisting words? You are, not me. For I did not say you made claim that Muslims are superior.

My point was simply that even yourself has a notion that a religion is more superior or advanced than another. Otherwise you would not have mentioned 'positives' of Islam. You are not true to your own logic. (If you cannot properly explain away this one I'd call you a hypocrite.)

Also, you completely failed to answer questions on how and why the Christian faith is creating more harm than other faith today, and into the future.

Bush and Howard do not equate to Christianity. But even if all your sweeping accusations are true, all that you are saying is "some Christians are bad".

Still, this is just your own opinion. It does not substantiate claim that "Christian faith creating more harm than other faith today", neither does it prove the converse: "All other faiths are creating less harm than Christianity today".

Can anyone respect your opinion when you are not even true to your own logic?

So, please try again:

1. Is the Christian faith creating more harm than other faith today? If so, how?