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‘Dissing’ men: the new gender war : Comments

By Jim Macnamara, published 15/9/2006

The negative portrayal of men in contemporary societies is not only a matter of concern for men, but also for women.

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It is a waste of time writing to the people who drafted it.
The best approach is the handwritten letter to your local member.
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 22 September 2006 7:36:34 PM

Not only that but also hand-delivered - I have written everything I can think to everyone I can think of including all the issues you raised and many others besides - still no results.
Posted by Rob513264, Saturday, 23 September 2006 10:40:41 PM
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A long time ago poor old Germaine Greer wrote: "Women have no idea how much men hate them." After reading most of these posts, I think I now have some idea.
Posted by Hedgepig, Monday, 25 September 2006 11:59:42 AM
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Hedgepig wrote, "A long time ago poor old Germaine Greer wrote: "Women have no idea how much men hate them." After reading most of these posts, I think I now have some idea."

Psychologist Toby Green wrote that some women have a much harder time being wrong and to watch out when she tries to turn the arguement around so that she appears to be the victim.
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 25 September 2006 4:36:14 PM
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Hedgepig

If you like Greer quotes here is more recent one of hers apropos of her passion for adolescent boys:

"Sperm that runs like tap water will do..."

According to you I must be a woman hater simply because I found Greer's sexual obsession with young boys quite revolting:

boy "old enough to be capable of a sexual response, but not yet old enough to shave".

"This window of opportunity is not only narrow," she writes, "it is mostly illegal."

Greer opines that child protection (against sexual predators) is not needed for boys after the age of 10-12 years (?!)

There are plenty of liberated and sensitive woman around to quote and here are two examples:

“My theory is that men are no more liberated than women.”
– Indira Gandhi

or

“No one can make you feel inferior without your permission.” – Eleanor Roosevelt

Hedgepig, Ms Greer is old, I'll grant you that but she is far from mature in her thinking and attitudes.
Posted by Cornflower, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:19:42 AM
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JamesH, congrats, you've found a psychologist who also hates women. I presume this makes him one of the good mental health professionals, rather than those terrible ones who go around validating the experiences of raped women.

Cornflower, I promise to only quote nice women from now on.
Posted by Hedgepig, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 2:05:11 PM
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Hedgepig! Toby Green is a woman. He He He

Accusing men of hating women is a pretty good manipulative technique whilst it works.

It is 'Dissing' men and that is what the article is all about.

Sure when men start writing and talking they are going reveal things that many women would rather they did not talk about, because not all little girls are made of sugar and spice.

In psychology there are two terms 'projection' and 'transference.'

(projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, feelings—basically parts of oneself—onto someone else (usually another person, but psychological projection onto animals, inanimate objects - even religious constructs - also occurs). The principle of projection is well-established in psychology.

To understand the process, imagine an individual (Alice, for example) who feels dislike for another person (let's say Bob), but whose unconscious mind will not allow her to become aware of this negative emotion. Instead of admitting to herself that she feels dislike for Bob, she projects her dislike onto Bob, so that her conscious thought is not "I don't like Bob," but "Bob doesn't like me.")

Subsequently when women accuse men of hating them,it is because of what men are saying. In reality women are feeling dislike and anger about what they hear men are saying, so it is more comfortable to accuse men of hating women. Rather than owning their own feelings.
Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 4:04:10 PM
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