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Not just Australians' values : Comments

By Ghassan Hage, published 18/9/2006

Assimilationists are the real exclusionists of Australian history.

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I suppose someone will invoke Godwin's Law if I point out that Boaz's new hero was a Nazi/fascist sympathiser, and that his link is to a white supremacist site? Very suspect company to keep, I would say.

Samuel Johnson once said that nationalism is the first refuge of the scoundrel...
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 4:59:35 PM
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Apologies - I meant to say "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". Perhaps a Freudian slip on my part?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 9:26:43 PM
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CJ MORGAN
The site was the Australia First party, but that is not the issue.
I don't support them particularly and especially any hint of 'White' superiority.
Its worth noting that Percy/Inky, was in fact interned for 3 yrs for dubious loyalty issues. Pro Fascist yes.. so it was said. But none of that takes away from the sound, dare I say the exceptional and balanced reasoning he used in that piece. I challenge anyone to fault his reasoning and logic.

Remember, I said 'replace the word 'Jews' in that, with 'migrant'.

Chris has caught what I mean't by that. Now you can catch up :)

SNOUT if you doubt that in some cases, Jews have brought anti semitism on themselves you may wish to research the Sasoon family from Baghdad, who ran the opium trade for the British Crown in China, and see exactly how they operated. Installing Jews (family members) all throughout China to promote this vile trade. They could have advertized for workers, but chose to use family members. Then when you look at how the Bank of China (Taiwan) started...... you will see what I mean. The point is....ANY ethnic or reliigous group, Jew or Italian or Greek or Turkish....any.. if they persue goals which benefit their group to the exclusion of others, will produce a reaction. Anti Semitism, Anti Migrant etc etc.

Stephensons reasoning is that you cannot have 'anti' semitism without an existing'semitism'... and clearly you cannot have 'anti-migrant' views unless you have 'pro-migrant' views to begin with.
So, if migrants don't threaten Australian idenitity, no one will think anything of them.

He makes the point that small groups who don't have influence far outweighing their numbers will not produce any reaction. Do you get this ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 9:38:39 PM
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Boaz, you are treading a very dangerous path.

The work you refer to is classic Nazi proselytism, albeit lacking its intellectual rigour.

To write such a document in 1940 (the war had started by then, incidentally, and the anti-Semitism of the Third Reich was well known), labels Stephenson a Nazi propagandist, pure and simple.

Some of the argumentation is worthy of Josef Goebbles himself.

"...the Jewish minority technique has undoubtedly supplied the inspiration and the model for Communist Party organisation, in all countries, including Russia and Australia."

...and...

"It is clear that the intention of our Legislative Forefathers was to base Australian life on what may be described as Fused-European Homogeneity... The unmistakable implication of our national policy is that Australia’s future citizens will be bred from a free intermixing of the various imported European strains—avoiding in particular the social problems which would result from Eurasian miscegenation, or alternatively from segregation of alien racial minorities within the general community."

I can certainly see how this appeals to you with your rabble-rousing hat on. Such an amalgam of dubious opinion stated as fact – “Jewish model for Communist party organization”, and unfounded speculation – “it is clear that the intention of our forefathers was...” – is classic Third Reich stuff.

It does surprise me a little that you have been so duped by its air of studied innocence. Your suggestion that you can bring it up to date by substituting “migrant” for “Jew” is disingenuous in the extreme. For a start, the tacky paragraph on “ Fused-European Homogeneity”, which is clearly code for “White Supremacy” or even “Racial Purity”, doesn't even mention Jews, but still stands out as a masterpiece of bigotry.

The part that you would like us to latch onto is the “call to arms”:

“The implication of the Jewish practice of Racialism is unmistakably Themselves First—Themselves versus the Rest. Once understood, that constitutes a challenge to the Rest of Us which cannot conscientiously be disregarded.”

Boaz, I'm serious. Get help.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 10:06:25 PM
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Gracealone - dont confuse being sarcastic with being a pedant:

As for values - as i said this debate is not about them -
Posted by INKEEMAGEE2, Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:27:41 AM
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Why are we no longer concerned about the Asianisation of Australia?

It was that which once threatened the world as we knew it - before that it was the post WW11 reffos, before that it was the Irish ( Sen J Faulkner gave a very interesting address re this) and then the Chinese - god those Asian are persistent!

oooops I forgot - 7 eleven, I mean 9/11 -

SO now we are going to test people - test their allegiance and understanding of what we are as a nation - test their understanding of a fair go, tolerance, justice and gender equality - so when they get here they will fit in - I suppose it will also weed out undesireables - test smesht!

I mean we could our leaders on the principles of telling the truth ethics, morality and a fair go I am sure they would pass the test with flying colours - but they still lie cheat and fail in their duty of care to their citizens - what would be the point: we take those who stand for public office with little real scrutiny - but heck what does that matter they only run the place

But I can actually see a business opportunity here - offering off shore tuition to would be immigrants could be a nice littel earner - a sure fire education in passing the test of Australianess - a web based approach would be they way to go - Andrew Theophanous could work as a consultant on immigration again - he's got form in that area.

I can also see jihadists queuing up for miles - and they've got buckets of money - practising their G'days and listening to Waltzing Matilda on thier iPods dreaming that once they pass this test - and get to be citizens 4 years later - they can turn a whole bunch of us into pink mist.
Posted by sneekeepete, Wednesday, 20 September 2006 2:34:28 PM
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