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What exactly is your experience with indigenous culture? Often on this forum anyone who is not right-wing inclined in rhetoric gets easily labeled as writing left wing dribble and revealing indoctrination by ‘leftie’ tertiary institutions. That may very well be the truth, maybe I am biased, heck I know I’m not objective! I don’t claim to have the answers and my views come from my own experiences. Although for someone who is quick to point out the ‘indoctrination’ and obvious political sway of other bloggers, I am bewildered that you lived amidst indigenous communities and failed to have made any connection in cultural understanding. I wonder how the obvious effects of our colonial past resonated in those communities. I wonder how children and teens dealt with issues of racial prejudices that their extended families may have encountered and whether they took it personally? To be so unattached to an obvious continual discourse of post-colonialism and its negative effects on contemporary Aboriginal culture reflects a large bias on your behalf.
School yard bullying mentality taught me it was never fun being the ‘victim’, similarly indigenous Australians have been associated with negative stereotypes and social stigmas that continue in contemporary Australia. Somehow I don’t think they chose it? Or continue to do so. Unfortunately western capitalist mentality leads one to believe that it’s an equal playing field and there is opportunity there for all to health, education etc. The illusion of the ‘equal’ playing field never existed so unfortunately the ones left behind are denied the right to even be victims.
Let’s be accountable, at least Whitlam’s legacy left us with that

Good post and questions Jules.

I totally agree that its a convenience of Right Wingers to label any counter ideological view to there’s as Leftist, or in my case, be labelled as an indoctrinated, brainwashed, thinker from the Whitlam era.

The history and struggle for human rights and fairness and the oppressed, indeed the history of colonialism and political struggles against colonialism goes way back before the simplistic division [in political theory] of society as being either Left and Right.

The underlying racist assumption of Pragma's (and Dickie's) label of me being indoctrinated is that he does not believe Indigenous people can think for themselves or arrive at social and political comment independently without Left wing (white) peer tutelage. so entrenched is racism in their thinking that they fail to even identify its influence - its simply considered 'natural' to how one should make such pronouncements.

But what is more interesting is that I sense that deep down this disbelief in my own (and Indigenous people's) intellectual capacity to pronounce is a deep fear that we actually are human and have our own faculties (shock horror). Admitting this would be akin to committing political and psychological suicide - and under threat here is their own sense of identity as white people. Becoming culturally and racially competent in a wide range of social and cultural and racial environments is not their objective. Being xenophobic without appearing to be overtly racist is the go it seems.

The amusing aspect for me in the discussion so far is that both (P and D) appear to think that their comments are original and that I've read these so called revelations for the first time. LOL! Welcome to the real world lads!

“Well may we say god save the Queen, because nothing will save Dickie and Pragma from themselves.” (apologies to Uncle Gough)

rainier & jules21 your posts highlight the extent of desperation in which some extreme left guilt industrialists find themselves in to keep the race issue stirred up. since when is being a leftie an australian indigenous trait ? from my experience lefties generally are educated beyond their comprehension white hangeroners who bite the hands that feeds them. their attempts to project the impression as being on par with reputable academic achievers are unfortunately quite successful in remote communities. it enables them to deceive and exploit those unfamiliar with gobbledeegook jargon and political correctness. then there are those hypocrits who, under the pretence of being committed to stopping the exploitation of their people in remote communities but are actually collaborating with the aforementioned. i have personally witnessed the near total social destruction of communities conned and made dependeant on government funding by such callous uni drop-outs. they usually last about 18 months before they depart and leave the mess to us permanent residents. even worse is the fact that all this is taxpayer funded since the "uncle Gough" era.
jules21, please do not trivialise "lives were altered drastically" by referring to it as "quite amusing".

Hage Ghassan white nation: fantasies of white supremacy is full of imaginary philosophical crap. Im doing a law PHD, was reading it the other day and thought what a better way to waste time. In fact , other students couldnt agree more on what's more pathetic. Sadly, asians and other lovely immigrants from all around the world is taking over australia, australia to begin with was never meant to be a white nation. Basically, white squatters practically stole it from the indigenous then calling it their land. It was never rightfully white to begin with,there for it aint a white nation at all. sorry to burst your bubble.