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Hezbollah cannot be destroyed : Comments

By Clive Williams, published 18/8/2006

Hezbollah has hinted that it is keeping a big surprise for Israel.

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Hezbollah can be destroyed but it requires forcing a conventional war. The Romans had a similar problem with Zealots. Terrorists in a broader community. The conventional war solution would require innocents to be killed en-mass, so is no on the table for us. But might not deter Israel, if push comes shove.

Hezabollah is as a big danger to the legimate Lebanese government as were the Chinese warloards to 1912-1920 China.

Mao (terrorist) and the KMT (conventional) war against Japan. A UN presence with teeth and a Lobanese government serious about rooing out Hezbollah might have a chance? But what of Iran? It's problematic, for sure.
Posted by Oliver, Saturday, 26 August 2006 8:43:47 PM
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Bamboozled,

So glad you admit it.
Posted by Strewth, Saturday, 26 August 2006 11:15:47 PM
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Strewth....I've reflected :)

Rantings ? I'm sure at times my outpourings seem like this.

Definition:

"To utter or express with violence or extravagance"

I think this is going too far. I don't advocate 'violence' for its own sake, nor do I recognize it as anything other than a last resort, after peaceful initiatives have been exausted. Most of my sweeping statements of 'final solutions' are predicated by the term "Human Solutions", as opposed to the best solution which is for all concerned to embrace Christ as Saviour and Lord.

"Narccissistic".... 'self love' 'total exclusion of all except that which caters for and panders to that self love/promotion.

Again... a bit more than I'll admit to. Don't confuse "Boldness" with Narccissism, or you will have to agree that this term describes yourself. The confidence and boldness which I exibit is not on my own behalf, but the goal is the illumination of heart and mind to the root cause of human conflict which is alienation from God.

My references to 'Australian' culture and values etc... is not 'ethnocentrism' but simple recognition of social and human reality. Again, the goal is to diminish the sources of conflict.

So, having now reflected, I must reject the description 'Narccissistic rangings' as applied by you to me.

I hope you will do similarly and re-consider your own position in the light of historical,psychologocal,spiritual and human reality.
All the best.
Must have a coffee and a chat some time :)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 27 August 2006 9:59:37 AM
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Bamboozled,

Ranter it is. I can guarentee no one will contradict me on this.

Your 'theology', which is to say, your ideology, like that of all zealots, is based on US vs THEM, not on any universal moral code such as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which applies to everyone on this planet. It is premised on division & the subordination of everyone defined by you as THEM. It's also profoundly narcissistic because you believe that YOUR beliefs are the only possible beliefs for the rest of us. What you call 'Australian ' culture & values has no monopoly on living ethically. Your ideology particularly s**s me because it aids & abets the endless persecution of an entire people, whose only crime was to be born on a particular patch of ground, by another group of people as deluded and narcissistic in their 'thinking' as yourself. Bamboozled, if 'God' wants the Palestinians out of Palestine, I really don't think he'll need YOUR assistance in turfing them out.
Posted by Strewth, Sunday, 27 August 2006 10:43:14 PM
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Dear Strewth

The PLO tried to create insurrection in Jordan and actually take over a sovereign country.
They also fermented bloodshed and slaughter in Jordan on a massive scale, making them just as 'bad' as the Israelis.

They further indulged in genocide and ethnic cleansing of Damour Lebanon to the tune of 500+ dead and 24500 ethnically cleansed.

No matter which way you slice the cake, they seem as bad if not worse than any other 'unjust' mob you point to.

The point is, mankind is alienated from our Creator. ALL mankind.

The UN declaration on human rights is to be honest an exercise in futility. It was created as far as I can see by those who live in total isolation from the power realities of the real world.

Declaring the 'declaration' binding...does not make it so. What makes it so or not so is power.

Perhaps I should refrain from supporting any particular side, and we will get along better ? I am on the side which seeks redemption of human hearts.. that solution does not depend on 'power' but on humble acceptance of our sinful and alienated condition, and recognition that only in Christ will it be solved. As much for the Jew as for the Gentile.

These truths are to be accepted or rejected, but NEVER to be imposed because they cannot be. Your choice appears at this time to be 'reject'. You have my sympathy, and prayer.

cheers mate.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 28 August 2006 12:27:32 AM
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Bamboozled,

1) The PLO only came into existance in response to a total failure by the UN/world community to restore basic Palestinian rights. The PLO, like ALL such political/military organisations, has a a career which must be seen in the CONTEXT of the time & place in which it operates.

2) You take events out of their historical context and ignore what doesn't suit your agenda.

3) You rely on partisan Zionist websites for your disinformation. I can guarantee you've NEVER read a single BOOK which attempts to deal with these issues objectively. If so, name it.

4) You spruik for the real bullies & genocide merchants without any qualms whatever, and only cry foul at the resistance of their victims. Your morals are therefore highly suspect.

5) Your religious views are between YOU & your God, ie, strictly private. They should not be a prism through which to judge others. If 'God' is everything he's cracked up to be, he'll sort us out in his own good time. He doesn't need your help. Moreover, Palestinians are NOT bit players in your private fantasies. They have their own REAL problems, far greater than anything you could possibly imagine and to which you contribute on a daily basis by spruiking for their abusers.

6) You also do no service to mankind by belittling international law - it is the only thing we've got against the law of the jungle, for which you routinely advocate.

7) Diversity, not uniformity, is the name of the human game. If you expect a diverse world, including me, to conform to your world view, think again. You are wasting your time. If you are genuinely NOT afraid of another point of view, then sit down and read The Gun & the Olive Branch by British journalist, David Hirst, perhaps the best general overview of the Palestine problem around. The Bible is NOT in any way a reliable source for understanding the travails of the contemporary Middle East.
Posted by Strewth, Monday, 28 August 2006 8:59:13 AM
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