Hey MOZZA

well done mate !

At least you came up with a solution :) I've done this also, but though mine does indeed echo most of yours, I don't advocate Israel become a state of the USA.
The only solution to human/ethnic conflict that has EVER worked in that region is the part where you said "Move them to other Arab countries" and I support this for the same reasons you gave. (top marks)

One difficulty with your understanding of the 'United Arab' thing is in part the cause of the present problem. "Ethnicity" Iranians are very VERY 'Persian' :) and verrrry different from Arabs. Enough said on that.

PERICLES yes..I'm-a-watchin ya :) err where have you been? wasting time on the 'Legal abuse of animals thread'...goodness, your talents are much better utilized in threads like this.
But you STILLL don't understand 'Christianity' -*sigh*..much work still to be done there....

While your observations about 'Religion' in general are ok, TurnRightThenLeft makes the point about the 'roots of Christianity'.

CONTRAST:

1/ Oppressed Muslims FIGHT.
2/ Oppressed Christians share Christ.

The Muslims are STILL fighting, yet within 300 yrs the power of the 'Simple Gospel for a Sinful world' overtook the Roman Empire
which fed us to lions and made us the object of Grand Final fever while we were ripped to bits by wild animals.... now THAT is something :) and failure to examine WHY will be a blight on all agnostics and atheists.

Paul to the Ephesian Christians:

2:1 [As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,....

But

because of his great love for us, GOD, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.]

That message, changed the world of Rome, and it can change each of us.
Will we choose life...or death ? Pericles, this is an offer, not a gun to anyone's head.

...and Jesus said to the paralyzed man, "Son, your sins are forgiven"
This...is the Gospel.

I am sorry to tell you "Yasouna", but the joke appears to be on you;
Archeology, read here:http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/122/

And while you are studying Theocracies, Much like some other commentary, also include the Pantheon of New Age Marxoids and Cosmopolitan, or known as; "The useless idiots", before you become a member of those ranks.
Good Luck, and read some Essays here by various writers to find out where you sit on the Voyager Universalism to the Event Horizon.
A Pantheon of ; “New Age Cosmopolitan Useless Idiots and Apocalyptic Monkey IQ’ed” ; Patented by design.
People are a lot smarter than that; we hope.

Located here: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/127/

Coach,

“The word Allah was introduced to the Arabic bible centuries after Islam came to the scene.”

You obviously know a lot more modern Arabic than I do. What word do Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use when English speakers use the word “God”? Perhaps Yasouna, who I take it actually knows some Arabic, could let us know.

Given that the central tenet of Islam is that “There is no God but God” (that is, there is only one God), could you enlighten us on what was the Arabic word for God for those early centuries before the word “Allah” was introduced?

“Islam cannot exist under any other regime but Allah’s theocracy”

This is the rubbish promoted by various nationalist movements in the Middle East. I’m surprised you have fallen for it. Islam has survived and thrived under a whole range of political regimes in its 1300 year history, including the British and Czarist Russian empires. The most successful Muslim countries today (for example Malaysia) are secular and democratic in their political organization. After the first four Caliphs, Muslim countries have only rarely toyed with theocracy: separation of political and religious authority has been the rule rather than the exception.

The uses Islam is being put to by various nationalist and ideological groups during this century represents a serious threat to world security, as well as to Muslims all over the world. We don’t help anyone by promulgating silly beliefs based on ignorance. I don’t have all the answers to the crisis facing Islam, but getting our basic facts straight would be a good start.

All-

Although possibly denied by some Muslims, all the monotheistic religions have their antecedents in earlier polytheistic religious and philosophical traditions. Christianity borrows heavily from Greek philosophy of pagan origin as well as from its Hebrew parent. Judaism, the original monotheistic religion in this stream, arose as the worship of Yahweh, the Hebrew war god, became dominant.

Music to my ears Snout:
The one consideration though was Zoroastrianism actually curved the original Judaic traditions, as indeed they were before then very war like and barbaric.
As it is displayed in What is known as The Book of Enoch 1; scribed in a language of Ancient Ethiopian hieroglyphics, to which is fragmented and missing in large parts, thus the existence of a transcript of the Original as you so correctly put was by Greek writers, and some how was locked away in Slovenia. This is known as Slovak Enoch, suspected to be slightly different than the absolute original; perhaps due to translation difficulties other than conspiracy. None the less, an unproven Hypothesis.
But one thing that has become clear is that Mohammad’s, and the Islamic Version is some what well and truly plagiarized, both by Anthropological and Archeological perspective: See Here: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/58/
You can planeally see the Persian Influence of Zoroastrian Monotheism. And is only given credence by other Theological pantheons of universalisms and corrupt intellect and contaminate Epistemology. Islam becomes a part of the Ideological pantheon of Physical being, equally as severe as Marxoid philosophy, then introduce an over bearing Leftist ego, then we have big trouble, or End of Days.
Some may disagree perfuseally, but there is an interesting perspective here: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/124/

If we drop the Ancient Middle East for a moment, and head on to The Ancient South America's , I’m sure a few more answers are forth coming than what we have now. Liken it to; we have been fed a red herring.

Hello Fleurette,
1. Sure, Sheree is free to write brief articles. But it is merely spin doctoring to utilise the Crusades as illustrative of your point, if you miss the dynamics at work during the time. Please take a moment to read this scholarly summary:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/118/52.0.html

2. It is quite incorrect to claim that Islamic monothesm reinforced the same message as its predecessors. Examine some teaching from the sources:
3. Jesus said ‘You have heard it was said ‘You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy’. But I say to you love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you (Matthew 5:44). This is a wonderfully new attitude toward enemies.
4. The Qur’an contains commands to kill and fight (literally, "try to kill"). Most are found in the second (verses 190, 191, 193, 244), fourth (vv. 76, 84, 89, 91) and ninth (vv. 5, 12, 14, 29, 36, 123) suras. The Arabic verbs in all of these verses are related to the verb “qatala” which means “to kill”. Allah loves those who kill in his way (Q.61.4). This is not what Jesus taught. It is just not the same message, Fleurette! (You may wish it was).
5. Personal stories help; if indeed you are willing to consider them: Daniel Shayesteh, a former Iranian Fundamentalist, once on a violent mission for Allah, came to know Christ, and gives personal experiential reasons as to why: ‘Islam is not the religion of peace’. He loves his Muslim friends. But not Islam! (Google his name, and hear his story).
6. I am not shattered to learn you awarded me 0 out of 10 for an insight into the utter unity of the Father and the Son; and Jesus claim that Jews are the source of salvation (John 4:22). To hear me, you would have to let go of your theories.

When you've got God/Allah or Yaweh on your side,there is no need for logic or self doubt.The world suddenly becomes a lot simpler and Big Daddy will protect you.Follow that Holy Book and do as you are told.It is the perfect ruse for anyone to control the masses.

Now we can all fight over who has the best concept of God.Would Freud call this rational behaviour?Should we all be committed to the asylum?

Now who put those words in Big Daddy's Holy Book?