A very good point Mireille. I think the ultimate tragedy of the holocaust is the intellectual vacuum left in the Jewish community by the death of so many wiser heads than those who were left.

The zionistas were nothing but fringe players prior to the war and it was only the death of so much of their opposition that gave them any traction at all. Israel is nothing more than a reaction to trauma by kids deprived of their mentors.

Gush Shalom from the Israeli paper, Haaretz:

"We warned them
And called on them
To escape!"

That is disgusting
Hypocrisy.

Because we have:
Bombed the roads.
Destroyed the bridges.
Cut off the supply of gasoline.
Killed whole families on the way.

There is only one way
Of preventing more such disasters,
Which turn us into monsters:
TO STOP!

There is no military solution!

Mireille

Zionism is irrelevant here. Israel has millions of citizens of whom nearly one half are of Jewish Middle Eastern origin (refugees from Islamic administrations in Egypt Iraq Yemen etc.) Many are Islamic Arabic. All of them have been fired on and many killed by Hezbollah missiles. Hezbollah actually hit (targeted?) an Arab Israeli town. Do they all not have a right to exist and defend themselves if attacked?

They are people (prick them do they not bleed?)

There was much discussion about Israel at the beginning of the 20th century. That was before Arab nations started discriminating heavily against ancient Jewish communities and before the holocaust.

My basic point was that the Jews in Australia are part of this land and have the same right to support Israel as other Australians have to support Ireland England Scotland Lebenon etc.

Scout:

You howl "There is no military solution!".

Care to posit any plausible alternative solution that accounts for one side being genocidal in intent?

Mouthbreather

I was quoting Gush Shalom - forgot to insert end quotes.

However, I stand by his final line: "There is no military solution!"

In answer to your ignorant question: All parties in the Middle East debacle to cease fire and talk, negotiate, compromise, swallow their fanatical pride and learn to get along with each other.

Further military action only leads to further military reprisals - or have you been living under a rock all this time?

"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb the world into PEACE."

Scout:

The "we just form a healing power circle and promise to be nice" school of thought.

Simpleton.