BOB,

The Israeli's have failled to do any great harm to Hezbollah. They have failled in their objectives.

Your comment

'Please pray that the IDF, the IAF in particular, can swiftly turn every defended village in South Lebanon into a large, stinking hole in the ground. Particularly Bint Jbail, the terrorrists capital.'

just confirms that. Beating terror is about obliterating the terrorists support bases. All the dumb bloody IDF and the Israeli politicians have done is ensure that Hezbollah support increases.

About 'large stinking holes'... yep the IDF fits that image perfectly well, especially when it comes to killing kids and peacekeepers.

You last post with it's infantile and lame repitation and the above rash statement suggests you are starting to panic.

Two weeks wasn't it? Perhaps it's time to bring out those nukes. Thet'd confirm victory and surely confirm the rest of the world views Israeli's actions with abhorance.

In his book, “Hitler: the pathology of evil”, psychologist George Victor – who emphasized that he was writing as a “a Jew” – wrote about people who “embraced the position of victim, felt outraged, and took vengeance – a pattern that wrecked their lives and their lives and the lives of their families”. This, he wrote, “helped me understand the Third Reich”.

In a passage that might well apply to the psychology of many present-day Jews and to Israel, he wrote:

“Germany was seriously harmed after World War I – a victimization to which its leaders and people submitted, although Germans remained highly conscious of the victimization and outraged over it. Even more important, however, was Germany’s long history of victimization. While Americans have thought of Germany as a warlike, predatory nation, its history was the opposite. … Germans were the victims of many invasions, some of which decimated the population. That history made Germany a fertile soil for Hitler’s message of victimization, outrage, and vengeance.”

British Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells has said: "If you're chasing Hezbollah, well, chase Hezbollah. You don't go for the entire Lebanese nation, and that's the difference."

Are Israel’s actions Lebanon largely “vengeance” for past injustices, driven by a feeling of “victimization”, rather than a balanced reaction to the actions of Hezbollah?

Jeff Schubert’s book, “Dictatorial CEOs & their lieutenants: the cases of Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Ataturk, Mussolini and Mao”, will be released soon.
More at: http://www.jeffschubert.com/

2bob

And please tell me how escallation the violence has led to an escallation in violence and will lead to a futhur escallation in violence? It's a question you've never ansqwered. Why?

Would an honest answer show your absolute belief in the infalability of anything Israeli could be a mistake?

Keith

ps sorry about the spelling, I'm just a little slack tonight.

Whoa back ye Isralies!
You have suffered from minor incursions by extremist elements, and demonstrated your disgust by retaliating with massive force. This has been seen on countless occasions over the last several years.
Bombing your enemies out of existence is not the way to do things - this is 2006!. You dont HAVE TO bomb them - do you!, so Stop it - NOW!
It is made even worse when you maim and kill other innocent people.
Your actions against those you hate show that you have learnt nothing from the hatred and devistation bestowed upon you during WW2.
You have now lost the sympathy that I had for your race, because of your harsh treatment during WW2. It almost makes my wonder if the Germans may have been right? I never used too think so, but now - I wonder.
So, what happened to your Christian philosephy of "forgiveness" ?

I gained much from this article. Information. Understanding. Inspiration. As I have written in other places, I think the idea of a Jewish state in the ancient transitory homeland of the Jewish people is a bit barmy, but it is how it is, Israel has no more nutters than the average country, is democratic, and damn well has a right to defend itself as a nation and a people.

Like some of the critics of this article, I am also squeamish about the term "evil" in political polemic, and being unreligious don't accept that, along with "good", it has meaning of any cosmic import. But if I had to give it a definition by use of an exemplar, I couldn't nominate any more apt than the state of mind that wills, for no reason other than sheer hatred, the annihilation of an entire tribe of fellow human beings. Hitler made a career out of it. Hamas is a bit coy about it. Hezbollah flaunts it.

The reasoning that demands the annihilation of these movements is very different from theirs against Israel and the Jews, since it allows for the survival of people, their polity, and their faith. These are the foundations of modern democratic life and peace between both peoples and nations. If that's not "good", I don't know what is.

Skeptor....

your right, 'evil' is a relative term, but, having said that, I add a qualifier that not using 'evil' is something only secular people can do, indeed are obliged to do. Christians and people of various faiths will definitely use the term 'evil'. But its application can be a little politically convenient at times.

COME, BE ENLIGHTENED. (yes.. you)

There are THREE pieces of literature that ALL of us should be quite familiar with in order to understand the Middle East, the Jewish reaction and the Hezbollah/Hamas initiation.

Read, absorb and understand these things, and I believe most of us would take the same view on the conflict.
This is to take a 'macrohistorical' approach. Looking at the BIGGGG picture.

Document 1 Genesis Chapter 11 to end of book. (no apologies)

Document 2 The HAMAS charter http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html

Document 3 Battle of Tours/Poitiers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

In these you will observe:

a) The source of the conflict overall.
b) The Nature of the combatants.
c) The need for strong resilient defense against Islamic Hegemonistic empire building (today, and for the same reasons as 'then'.)

You should absorb these truths, and they should have a definite impact on your own preparation for the future HERE in Australia.

Supplementary reading could include the following:

Hadith Muslim book on Jihad
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html

Exploits of Khalid Bin Al Waleed senior general of Mohamed.
http://www.swordofallah.com/html/bookhome.htm

Josephus Antiquities "Wars of the Jews"
http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/JOSEPHUS.HTM

Unless you have at LEAST this or comparable level of reading, please refrain from comment about the current problem. :)