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The 'Israeli take' : Comments
By Colin Andersen, published 28/7/2006To get a more nuanced understanding of events in the Middle East, one has to turn to the Internet.
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Posted by bennie, Saturday, 29 July 2006 12:44:18 PM
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Overnight the Australian government asked Israel for a window of opportunity to get some desperate Australian citizens and other foreign nationals out of Southern Lebanon and they were told three times by Israel that it would not be protected. Then the Israeli's fired on them.
Leigh I wouldn't believe the right wingers if I was you. Hezbollah are a mere 2,000-3,000 people with mickey mouse rockets that fire them out in the open then go home. It is a tiny country and Israel knows where every launch pad is. There is no way they are firing them from the homes of their neighbours as they might kill their neighbours and I have not heard one report of any Hezbollah killing their friends and neighbours have you? You really need to stop reading the whines of Andrew clueless Bolt and Tim equally clueless Blair. Not one person has the right to fire weapons on another - it is murder remember? We in the so-called civiilsed west are sitting by watching a massacre that was clearly organised by Israel and the US months and months ago. Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Saturday, 29 July 2006 12:59:06 PM
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Well said bennie, I only commented as I believe the ones supplying the weapons are more guilty than those fireing them.
Posted by ELIDA, Saturday, 29 July 2006 1:01:08 PM
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David you say:" In every interview with 'INNOCENT' refugees, I have yet to find one who did NOT say "I will fight for Hezbollah or I support them" that, I'm sorry to say is NOT "innocence" that is culpable guilt of the most heinous kind and is being treated accordingly by Israel."
In Lebanon which has not declared war on Israel can you expect the refugees to say anything else? How did the Lebanese attain the status of refugee? People have had their houses or businesses bombed, may have had innocent relatives and friends killed or wounded. They are not going to say the bombs have come from a friendly source; so that's ok, are they? Get real, David!! There is a long history of aggression in the Middle East and to hang onto who is right or wrong, will only ensure that people of all persausions will be killed, and that's a tragedy. An innocent Lebonese person being killed is as tragic as an innocent Israeli being killed. Posted by ant, Saturday, 29 July 2006 1:11:43 PM
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This is funny:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=108435 Some idiot organised an anti-war protest in Haifa, they were stoned by irate Haifa resident's, who came out of their bomb shelters in order to do so. Hilarious. Inshallah 2bob Posted by 2bob, Saturday, 29 July 2006 3:46:18 PM
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Part One
Adjudicators needed in the Middle East schemozzle. In the new Israeli-Arab war there is injustice on both sides Therefore the answer is not to take sides. The main problem is that the US has rendered the United Nations, the only global means of an ethical questioning of the problem - rendered it obselete through the use of an outmoded veto, one of a pair which was allowed in the UN during the Cold War, one for the US and the other for the Soviet Union. Thus America, which since the end of the Cold War has prided itself as the haven of global justice, has used the veto to prove that it prefers not to discuss the US attack on Lebanon. The US has also landed a further shipment of arms to further Israeli attacks. We therefore suggest that never before in this world, has Immanuel Kant’s idea of a Global Federation of Nations been so much needed. Konrad Adenauer, first Chancellor of post WW2 West Germany who so much supported the principle of a democratic federation of nations, was also nstrumental in arranging the change from the League of Nations to the United Nations. Furthermore, Adenuear, now deceased, would doubtless fully agree with the need for a very strong democratic federation of nations right now. In the Middle East we have the two main contestants, firstly Israel strongly supported as well as monetarily supplied and heavily armed by the United States (including nuclear rocketry) - and secondly, neighbouring Arab nations, including Syria and Iran, totally forbidden to be supplied not only with atomic weaponry, but also with up-to-date planes and tanks. Posted by bushbred, Saturday, 29 July 2006 4:23:36 PM
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David Boaz there are countless people who've spent their whole lives interpreting phrases from the bible; is there a consensus YET? You do ask for a lot.
Here's a quote that needs no analysis - "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay." A fine sentiment, don't you think?
"I'm amazed you don't get the connection between 'Iranian money and proxy building, Hezbollah arming itself to the teeth, Hezbollah attacking Isael and Israel getting stuck into them AND their supporters."
The connection's there alright. Palistinian bombs = Iranian backing. Israeli bombs = American backing. The M.E. has been the plaything of wealthy nations for generations - not so long ago it was Russian backing versus US backing - and none have a moral advantage over the another. After generations of conflict all sides have been radicalized. No surprise a mote in your eye and a beam in everyone else's.
"In every interview with 'INNOCENT' refugees, I have yet to find one who did NOT say "I will fight for Hezbollah or I support them" that, I'm sorry to say is NOT "innocence" that is culpable guilt of the most heinous kind and is being treated accordingly by Israel."
Did you expect them NOT to support the only resistance to those killing their family and friends and laying waste to their country? Not one iota of empathy here.
Israel bombs innocent civilians while Hezbollah bombs innocent Israelis. The US, who supplies the bombs and the planes to drop them, has the power to make it stop but doesn't. David I'm curious to know where your moral compass lies, you seem comfortable with such preventable slaughter. I'm not advocating for either side David, in this dirty war both sides are equally complicit.