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Human Rights Watch targets Israel : Comments

By Sarah Mandel, published 26/7/2006

Political bias of HRW's Middle East division is regularly expressed in its disproportionate focus on Israel.

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How far the Zionist lobby has departed from civilised values became more obvious when Ms Mandel referred to "human rights language." Well of course it would be a no-no to mention old fashioned stuff like "international law", "illegal occupation", "unjust war" and the like. Can't have folk thinking in these outdated terms, can we ? Let's just shoot up the UN and kill UNIFIL workers who are trying to carry out their brief on the border. Come to think of it, let's just get rid of the pesky UN altogether. It was OK when it gave the Zionists half of someone else's land but it, and its silly conventions, is past its use-by date now, when the Zionists want all of Jerusalem and the rest including the water of the Litani river in Lebanon. So hooray for ethnic cleansing when its us who are doing it !
Posted by kang, Friday, 28 July 2006 1:57:32 PM
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We again read the constant chants of hate posted by Alchemist. He has only one note, one idea and offers no answers.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 28 July 2006 10:17:48 PM
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Philo, hate's the expression displayed by the followers of god. Disgust, describes my view of that expression. I'm sure your lord would be horrified at the example you provide of love, peace and caring. It just adds to the evidence of a misleading and false belief, using deception to promote love, before inflicting barbarity.

Philo, the only solution your mob comes up with is, destroy the opposition, leading to the same outcome, violence and harm to all life. The proper solution to all problems, is remove the cause. In this case its god in all its varying religious depictions. None of you are prepared to give an inch, which is a non solution and perfectly normal for your ilk, what's left is violence.

If the messiah comes, it'll be in the form of reason, caring and to fix up what's left after the ravages of his false followers. We'll all be judged philo, not on our belief, but on our expression, example and actual care for this planet. Not to be forgiven for what we knowingly failed to do.

Your christ had the right idea, he was able to see beyond the material world of belief and religious expression, to see the wonders of the reality of life. If the stories about him are correct, then he was an evolutionist, not a pragmatist stuck in the past.

Sadly for him, the results of his teachings are scarred by the despotic expression of those using his understanding for power and control. Quite the opposite to what's expressed in the book of the New testament.

Human rights Philo, is not a word in the vocabulary of the monotheist. That's eminently displayed in the situation indigenous people of the world find themselves in. The ongoing resort to violence, condemnation and hate the followers of god display for all life, not accepting of being dominated by suppressive dictatorial and despotic practises. The works of those purporting to follow the way of christ, is factually documented in the history of the world in the form of psychological and physical violence.
Posted by The alchemist, Saturday, 29 July 2006 10:52:02 AM
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Finally the IDF is beginning to think.

They are starting to wake up that militias require built-up areas in which to work and which they are capable of defending against a larger force.

The answer, warn the resident's, let them leave, destroy the entire village. There is no need to be concerned about 'civilian' casualties, as they are prevented by virtue of the exodus after the warning.

If this is done in every area from whence the rockets come, the enemy will no longer have the necessary protection from which to fire the rockets with impunity:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1153292023661&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

With no built-up areas, Hizbollah is forced to fight in the open, with predictable results:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743736.html
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1153292018606&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3282867,00.html

Force Hizbollah out into the open, as they are neither trained nor equipped for mobile, fast paced warfare, nor are they prepared to be targeted out in the open by the better equipped IDF, which can and will happen immediately they lose the protection of the civilian population.

Inshallah

2bob
Posted by 2bob, Saturday, 29 July 2006 1:01:40 PM
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Hi Sarah, nice article, but I don't think you have figured out what the real problem is.

I was around in 1973, when the Arab nations of Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Libya and Syria made no bones at all about their intention of wiping Israel right off the map. In those days, there was not a single trendy lefty who backed the Arabs against poor little Israel. You see, in order to be a trendy lefty, it is obligatory to always defend the underdog, and in those days Isreael was most definitely the underdog.

But Israel had a problem, they kept winning.

What was worse, was that Israel was also a relatively prosperous democracy. In addition, it's main benefactor was a nation which every trendy lefty knows is the epitamy of evil, the USA. So the trendoids simply switched sides in the same way that they discard last years beach fashions.

So, it is only normal for NGO's like HRW to now barrack for the Arabs, after all, the Arabs are now worthy of symaphy because they are a bunch of losers who could not run a chook raffle. And once any organisation is set up which espouses high ideals, it is only a matter of time before the carreerists and most fanatical succeed in taking it over and driving out the sensible people. Look at Greenpeace, which has become so radical that it has even been disowned by it's founder.

But don't worry, Sarah, in the unlikely event that the Arabs will someday succeed in destroying Israel, and then begin liquidating it's Jewish population, then we can be assured that HRW will again switch sides. It will then send strong notes of protest to the Arabs who are mass raping and exterminating the Jews. Then the moral posturing can begin anew.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 30 July 2006 8:52:45 AM
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2bob

taking those thoughts a bit further....

A possibly workable strategy which provides maximum peace and safety could be:

1/ Warn all residents about any ties or accomodation with Hezbollah.
2/ All civilians to move out of the village to Syria.
3/ IDF to carry out search and destroy missions against remaining Hezbollah insurgents.
4/ Once fighting has subsided, civilians are allowed back UNDER THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

a) Sign (and be videotaped/Photographed) a treaty swearing to NEVER support or provide shelter for Hezbollah (or what ever name the next incarnation of it might emerge with) ' The record to be posted on the internet for scrutiny by all.

b) The treaty will include acknowledging that IF Hezbollah are EVER found to have embedded themselves in that village again, (and the village failing to notify details to IDF) it will be 100% razed to the ground and the population deported, dispersed and absorbed into other countries.

They should do this with the Quran over their heads. Those who refuse, are not allowed to return. This would solve once and for all any idea of 'innocence' or 'guilt' among the so-called 'civilian' population.

A BIT HARSH ? nah.. this is what I've learn't about Mohamed, prophet of Islams methods. But he did not have Video or the internet in those days, but they did have good memories.
So, don't criticize me, or 2bob, criticize him and those who follow his faith.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 31 July 2006 6:29:33 AM
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