Runner.
I support women in making an informed choice.

My god are you really suggesting we FORCE women to give birth.

You talk about the muslims not respecting women but thats beyond the pale.

I think your bringing mother Teresa is only showing how far you are out of touch with todays world and women.

How dare you disrespect women so much you feel they have no right to make up their own minds.

You wish to take over others lives.

Well get this . Its not illegal to choose.

Its illegal for you bunch of nutters to call young girls and ladies murders!

Well it SOON will be because it bloody well needs to be stopped.

Shame On you!

Col, great points as usual, but they are clearly over most of their
heads....

Runner, a foetus is not a child. It seems you don't understand the
difference.

Mother Teresa I'm sure was a lovely old lady, but she was also
a Catholic religious fanatic. When the crunch came, she sought treatment in the West, not in her own clinics, where people suffered.
She never did account for the huge amounts of money donated to her
charities.

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s266592.htm

Nobody is saying that abortion should be mandatory. The point is,
women should have a choice, free from religious interferance!

Unless of course you want suffering, as happens where the church has
an overwhelming influence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/3147672.stm

runner,
If you are male you are not likely to have a sensible defense so STOP!
You ought to recognise this is chemical warfare on the innocent and women are allowed to perform such acts of violence without question. It is their choice, it is their right, it is their child. You are forcing your views upon those that want to engage freely in the destruction of inocent human life. We have about 100,000 innocent being put to death each year in Australia alone. Get over it, it is reality. Women want choice and they do not want any moral conscience defying them. They have the power of life and death and they will use it without the likes of you trying to impose your thoughts upon them.

They hate the thought of men killing innocent children as it reduces their power to control life. Men must not have that power. Note their rantings about the death of innocent children on other threads. Totally irrational behaviour, no logic no sound reasoning. They do not deserve the title 'mother', which means 'to nurture life'. They are the new agents of human destruction using chemical toxins.

One of the most puzzling things for me as a peripheral participant in these debates, is that while women’s health has been extended to include psychological and financial aspects of having a child, no such logic can be applied to men. While around a third of the pregnancies are terminated for so called health reasons, men’s health can never be measured using such criteria. Even if we were to exclude the female specific health considerations from the equation, we’d still end up with at least 80% of currently applied criteria that is of equal value to either gender.

I must be one of the few declining remnants of the old school who contrary to all rational thought, still believes it takes two to play the parent game. Silly me.

Col, “Duh? – women are not and cannot be forced, blackmailed or coerced into having an abortion”. Neither can they be forced to have sex – but they do.

Seeker I enjoyed your twee little post about taking men's health into consideration or "What about me?'

Have you gents forgotten that until recently women died in childbirth. Even 100 years ago families often consisted of man, children of first wife, second wife and children of second wife.

In Australia today few women die in childbirth but many women have their health impaired by pregnancy. So if a woman doesn't intend to rear the child then termination should be an option.

Today we heard that the Salvation Army has been paying compensation to children who were abused while in their care in the 1960s and 1970s. So all church organisations in Australia failed to protect children in their care from abuse.

And its debatable whether Australia needs to grow its population when
- all manufacturing jobs are going offshore and
- increasingly youths must complete year 12 to get a trades apprenticeship
- we can't provide enough fresh water for our future growth

Again, the abortion argument raises its ugly head.

Really, it’s simple. The point, at which you believe the zygote/foetus becomes human, is the point at which you choose not to have an abortion. If it’s not you or your partner who is pregnant, then butt out.

How much clearer can it be?