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As Lebanon bleeds: a savage and unwinnable gambit : Comments

By Pierre Tristam, published 17/7/2006

Israel's offensive against Lebanon is an assault justified by the false rhetoric of self-defence.

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Bazz - an article re cousin marriage:

Gene test push for married cousins
By Erin O'Dwyer
May 28, 2006

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gene-test-push-for-married-cousins/2006/05/27/1148524933481.html

'DOCTORS working with immigrant communities in Sydney's western suburbs hope human genome mapping will address high rates of infant death and birth defects in children born to first cousins.'

'A study at Auburn Hospital found almost 20 per cent of pregnant women admitted to the maternity ward in one year were married to their first or second cousins.'

'The research found babies were three times more likely to be born with birth defects and six times more likely to die in the womb or in infancy than babies in the general population.'

Westmead Children's Hospital geneticist David Sillence said the issue of marriage between blood relatives was extremely sensitive in communities in which it was practised, including Lebanese, Turkish, Iraqi, Iranian and Pakistani....

According to the World Table of Consanguinity on cousin marriage:

1-3% in the West
20-50% in Muslim countries
Posted by dee, Monday, 17 July 2006 4:35:44 PM
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Thanks Dee for the update.

It raises a very significant question;
Would you want the children of these marriages to control missiles with nuclear weapons ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 July 2006 4:52:45 PM
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Irfan

Neither of us can be all that bad! At last we agree. :-)

Keith
Posted by keith, Monday, 17 July 2006 5:07:53 PM
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To the bleeding hearts,

The shia lebanese openly support the actions of the hizbollah terrorists, as the majority of those in Gaza support the actions of HAMAS. In addition to which, the overwhelming majority of israeli's support Olmert in the current crisis. This is the impact of democracy on war. If you choose to vote for a party which will precipitate open war with your larger, incalculably better equipped and vengeful neighbour, the current crisis is perhaps the best mechanism by which to cause you to consider more carefully who to vote for.

For those who suggest Israel stole the land, they did not, it was given to them by the UN, after a vote, and the majority of the land in question was owned by the British Crown, most of the rest was owned by absentee landlords (especially in Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). The average Palestinian lost nothing, as they owned nothing, so how the hell were they dispossed? Additionally, those who suggest that Israel started the violence would do well to read the history of the country, particularly regarding Al-Husseini and the massacre of the innocents in Hebron.

Finally proportionality? What is Israel to do, remove the guidance units from their weapons & delivery systems, and fire precisely the same number of unguided weapons per day as teh lebanese & HAMAS do? How utterly ludicrous. War is very similar to a street race, run what you brought. Israel bought (& built) better equipment, their neighbours did not, they are currently paying the consequences.

Inshallah

2bob
Posted by 2bob, Monday, 17 July 2006 5:23:26 PM
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I am not surprised for reading mostly anti-Semitic responses to Israeli attempts of securing a peaceful existence and calm borders.

Recent events once again eventuate an influx of who-is-who locally, where media has got enough space for factually pro-terrorist barking by professor in Arabic Studies at the Australian National University, well sustained next day by Mr. Terry Lane on the same “The Age” page but nothing more truthful provided.

It is not a wonder at all that the Jews in this Anglo-colony are being denied degrees at the universities and employment, professional especially, for what they are and that is what Israel is always guilty for, which is Jewishness.
Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 17 July 2006 6:09:30 PM
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Responses to articles like this by a certain group of misfits, reinforces the evidence that the rabid quest for violence and war is the true design of monotheism. It advances the fact, we're in for a hell of a religious war, effecting us all in the end.

Its gone past whose to blame, whether this escalates or is just another wave in the coming tide of violence, who knows. On the news tonight jews in Australia were out celebrating on the streets, waving Israeli flags. So it wont be long before we have the two most despotic god factions facing of here, fully supported and supplied by the other faction.

I'm not sure how much I support those with dual citizenship, who use Lebanon as their home and Australia as their money pot. Actually if your stupid enough to go to places that are constantly have conflict, tough luck. But those who are visiting should be got out as quickly as possible. The time may come soon when it may not be safe to rescue fools who put themselves in danger.

Still those of us who aren't afflicted by this destructive disease, can but hope we come out of this in the end. What saddens me is there's many innocent people who suffer, its refreshing the amount of care and sympathy for them displayed by followers of god.

I see no difference in any of them with regard to terrorism, they all invade everyone as soon as they get the chance.

Boaz says,
“Defeating
Deporting
Dispersion and
Absorption “. Isn't that what you ilk have always done with every indigenous peoples in the world, as god invaded with lies and violence. You deserve your lies, deceit and your wars, but no one else does.

Coach, “The only solution is total eradication of one party or the other : Israel or all the Islamic neighbours. Anything in between will always be potentially explosive.”

I agree, lets start with the violent invaders, Israel
Posted by The alchemist, Monday, 17 July 2006 7:47:12 PM
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