OZGIRL,
Though I almost totally dissagree with Wendy's point of view on most subjects I would not call her small minded. She actually belives in what she says and presents her arguments with a lot of convinced thought. She is obsessed with her subjects, which I suppose you might consider her a bigot. On her points of view on 10's programmes especially BB she has presented an argument I agree with. It is a wonder she hasn't woven her obsession - abuse of animals and refugees into this thread.

Philo,
As far as im concerned the 'B' word fits her perfectly.

And to touch upon a point you directed to me earlier..John Howard does not pay the salary of the ordinary worker as you implied, the tax payer pays HIS salary..and he gives he and his cronies huge pay rises at the drop of a hat and yet erodes the minium wage and expects us to lick his boots for scant and useless tax cuts.The cost of living has gone thru the roof of late guys,in case you did,nt notice, interest up, petrol etc..this is an upward trend and is here to stay.
The nasty bit is just kicking in and the riding on the coattails and sucking up the credit for the strong economic foundations put in place by Keating, is about ot hit the wall.Employment growth sure.If you work but one hour per week you are counted as employed,almost half of the figures are based on this rubbish.Go figure, I didnt vote them in , my conscience is clear.

Philo

Thank you for opening the door.

My work is animal welfare and I make no apoligies for that.

Its my job to educate the public as to the facts such as the ownership of the unbelibale cruel conditions of piggerys such as the one owned by Amanda Vanstone.

Speaking of TV and media control we have the Packers , Murdoch. the Le Courts owning live exports.
Oh! and the AWB which everybody kept secret from the public just talking about Wheat!

What Ozgirl is talking about is freedom to watch what she likes.

I have already posted very early about the conflicts of interests which makes certain that the public never see the truth.

I know u dont like my posts regarding Churches turning their backs on live exports and animal cruelty but too bad.!

If the cap fits then they have to wear it.

The BB show is personally offensive to me and although as Ozgirl said there certainly is worse material around its not on at 7pm.

My complaint is simply that I argue the time frame.

You are unfair with your going on and on about abortion Philo to complain about my work with the RSPCA

Also I work to improve conditions for aboriginal people and to put jobs back into Australia.

I am not going to apoligise for working hard to help suffering animals and people.

Perhaps u should try it sometime.

Instead of preaching about aborsion.

If u followed most of the polls regarding BB the result was most people wanted the show to be put on later at night.

Not ban it.

I happen to agree with them on the BB issue. Ozgirl does not.

I will leave u with that thought and of course your dress.

Support the RSPCA and tell John Howard the public will not tolerate cruelty to Animals.

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Wendy,

I understand you take criticism personally and I do not want you to think this is a personal attack. I admire your stance on animal welfare, for example, but wish you would express this concern on relevant threads.

Now, you stated: "The BB show is personally offensive to me and although as Ozgirl said there certainly is worse material around its not on at 7pm."

Well there is much worse material on at 7.00 PM and earlier it is called the news.

I wouldn't want my niece and nephew (ages 7 and 9) watching BB without parental guidance, nor am I happy for them watching the very real violence that is part of our every day news report. Also I don't believe that game shows (on during family time), where the host is always male and women are used as decoration, set positive role models for children either.

However, these shows exist at these times. Therefore, I would rather a responsible adult be present with children during these shows. No doubt Ozgirl offers guidance to her children during BB. If so, she is educating her children.

Making generalisations about single mothers (or anyone) is unhelpful and results in alienating a reader from many of your heartfelt posts, Wendy. Please remember that people are individuals and not stereotypes; you acknowledge this yourself when you agree with Philo. He might be extremely religious, however, there are topics on which you find agreement with him. Same for Ozgirl, she is a single mother which means her life is a struggle (unless she has discovered a secret goldmine).

There is much material on TV which is puerile, however, to deny freedom of expression is a step towards totalitarianism and also a chance missed to educate our children on the morally ambiguous.

It is a harsh and inequitable world out there; we cannot hide our children from it and expect them to thrive. We can offer our perspective on the many confusing and often violent images on our TV screens, thus giving our children a chance to make informed decisions over their own lives.

Scout, thank you for helping to clarify my point.

Wendy your stance on animal rights is to be commended, they do not have a voice....Scout probably said it more succintly than I did regarding the Big Brother issue ,men have more inherent logic it would seem.(I am assuming that Scout is male?)

Empathy and understanding are great attributes.

Scout, I am correcting myself whilst I still have a chance to do so.Reading your post gives no clue either way,so if I got it wrong apolagies in advance.