kwv,I did not mean to upset you....so no offence, you didnt come across as male.
I know BB is by no means perfect but then not much is these days as far as content goes.Alvin Purple back in the 70s was some kind of precedent so I fail to see how the phoney indignation displayed here
can be taken seriuosly, really, in the times when children can access internet porn at the touch of a key etc...this is silly really.I do love the show and will continue to watch.

I am 100% with the posters Steve Maddon and Trade215 on this.I feel it is up to us the veiwer to know what our children are watching and monitor accordingly,instead of trying erode away further at the importance of freedom of speech of the individual when this government is only to happy to deny us our basic human rights in all its forms and is well on the road to doing exactly that.IR,demonstrations being against the law etc..our rights are being taken one by one and in that we may not notice so much,but one day we wake up and realise that everything we held dear as our beloved nation is gone and our children have nothing to inherit but a country so damaged it cant be fixed.
So saying we have a right to watch BB actually goes a lot further than just a TV show,freedom of speech and having a voice is all we, the people have,nothing else and when that voice is gone THEN you will all see just exactly what this arguement is really about.
Stand for sopmething or you will fall for anything..our children are our future , they should have a voice.

I'm amazed how much people have to say about a show they claim they never watch! I've watched much of the series - like many of my generation I've found it strangely compelling, although a lot of it was boring and banal, and the ads can make you feel like eating your own kidneys.

Those who have watched the daily show would know that its content was in no way sexually offensive, and (the defunct AO show aside) there was nothing that could be reasonably construed as potentially corrupting young minds (unless you include banal content and endlessly repetitive commercial advertising.

Those who have watched the show would also know that there was never any mention of, let alone depiction of, turkey slapping. This has all, repeat all, come from other media, much of it pruriently calling for tightened standards to restrict what they themselves were depicting!

I take the point from those posters who have called into question the ethics of the producers in their treatment of actual or potential contestants. But I've never read such tosh from so many people eager to disclaim any knowledge of their subject matter!

Snout, you are quite right BB never did depict the 'turkey slapping' incident,and yes there are those who say to much about something they are not qualified to speak on if they never' lower themselves ' to actually watch it.Its funny really.

BB itself is ,I believe quite responsible in their approach and as for Up Late,well it was on late and so small children would all be in bed by then so one would hope.

Ozgirl

The children were not mine.

The parents often work late and I have them in for dinner at times because I like to help my neighbours if I can.

They are banned from watching BB but switched the TV while I was getting their meal ready.

I have no reason not to take at face value the person who actually attended BB.

I do not like loose morals.BB is offensive and should not be on at 7pm.


It doesnt say much for our morals with Australia being the number world wide for unmarried mothers.

John Howard does not hate people either.

The reason he likes the job is he is a people person.

Yep he is from the old school but there is nothing wrong with that.

He would never have allowed his kids to watch such crap thats for sure.

He would want his children to grow up as young gentleman and young ladies.

There is a time and a place for everything and he does not think watching young unmarried singles lying on beds do whatever or going on national TV naked in a shower is the cool either.

I just think its sad when kids are not given a chance to learn right from wrong and good morals.

Surley thats the most basic right of any kid.

Foe heavens sake, as I said, your opinion is invalid because you have never actually watched BB and so cannot make an informed comment that is useful or credible in any debate that I car to be part of.

Now you are make degrading generalisations about single mothers ,of which I am one.
My children are loved, taken care of, live in a home with values and given a good education.

You are very ignorant and I avoid people like you and your 'values' like the plague.

I am at least trying to broaden my outlook.,unlike you. I am doing a Social Work/Sociology degree at uni and I resent people like you spreading ignorance and poison about people like me when you have absolutely no idea of what in the hell you are talking about except garbage that is beamed into your lounge rooms attacking single mothers and blaming them for every problem the country faces,.
Some of us are widowed divorced and abandoned by arsehole men who refuse to face up to their responsibilty and then the Government decides to further persecute and punish us by attempting to turn their fellow Australian on them.

Walk a mile in my shoes and until you do,be thankful for your perfect life and maybe try to become a more rounded and balanced human being in order that you might actually be someone who could actually make a difference to people not so fortunate as you.

John Howard is a creep and for too many reasons that I care to list here.He,s destroying our country and thats one we can all identify with.
Shame on your absolute soul destroying ignorance.

OZGIRL, off topic but a combination of points you made in that last post is concerning (or I'm oversensitive to that stuff from past experience).

"I am doing a Social Work/Sociology degree at uni "
"Some of us are widowed divorced and abandoned by arsehole men who refuse to face up to their responsibilty and then the Government decides to further persecute and punish us by attempting to turn their fellow Australian on them."

I hope that your social work/Sociology studies include a look at the other side of the picture, those men who've been put through the wringer by an ex with the support of social workers and the like with chips on their shoulders about their own failed relationships. For every woman who has been abandoned by an arsehole man who refuses to face up to their responsibilities their is another who is milking the system and using kids as an income stream or a revenge tool against an ex. It's not a one sided picture, both men and women do wrong. Both hurt their kids and former partners due to self centered behaviour.

I came across to many semi-professionals working around the fringes of family law doing things like mediation and councelling who do real harm because their world is all about the plight of women (or their own history) and not much about the people impacted by their involvement.

Take some time before you start using that training and make sure that you've seen the flip side to what I'm guessing is your own experience. I'f I've misunderstood your comments then feel free to ignore the above.

R0bert