Leo,

You made some good points up until when your post entered into the realm of anti-semetism.

With the murderous record of anti-semetism in the twentieth century, particularly the 6,000,000 jews gassed in the Nazi extermination camps, that is not a path that I think any of us would wish to travel down.

Marsketa, you are right that it is Peter Beattie, rather than Cate Molloy who has abandoned his constituents. He has done this a few times already that I can recall:

1. In 1998 John Howard lost the popular vote (48.5% to 51.5%) but nevertheless won enough seats to win Government with the aid of a dishonest taxpayer funded pro-GST publicity campaign. After many people realised that they had been duped. a grass roots movement against the GST gathered momentum. As this happened the Labor Premiers, with Beattie foremost amongst them, went behind our backs to enter into negotiations with John Howard over the carve-up of the GST funds. This, more than anything, gave Howard just enough legitmacy to push ahead and eventually ram his 'never ever' GST through the Senate. It is unlikely that Democrats Senator Meg Lees would have had the gall to capitulate to Howard if Beattie and the Labor premiers had not first acted in the way that they did. As a consequence, Howard's rule has been extended at least eight more awful years.

2. Breaking his election promise to not fully privatise the half privatised Suncorp Insurance.

3. Privatising Energex.

As much as Peter Beattie and the Labor Party deserve a drubbing at the next elections, I still think, given the political climate, particularly in regard to the campaign against the John Howard's medievel industrial relations legislation, it is important that John Howard's overt political allies at the state level are repudiated.

So I would advocate always putting the Liberals and Nationals last on the ballot papers, and Labor second last. Hopefully, a few good independents, including Cate Molloy might win. With a large base of support they should be in a better position to begin to change the state's political agenda.

Diligent Daggett,

Please jog the memory of a Smart State citizenry ... held as the hostages under dictatorial regime hijacked democracy! Who was that quack? Guilty to declare with an utter chutzpah gusto:

"My government is committed to listening to the views, concerns and ideas of every Queenslander - no matter where they live in this great State"..."That's why we've held 65 community cabinets around the State since first coming to office in June 1998"..."I was pleased to take Ministers to the Sunshine Coast during August for a community cabinet meeting"..."These community gatherings are designed to bring our politicians together with the people they represent, and Queenslanders have shown they welcome this style of government"..."Residents and representatives of community groups met Ministers and departmental heads during the two-day visit to discuss ideas, issues and concerns about important local matters"..."A community gathering gave people the chance to chat informally or to make deputations"!

There is absolutely no conceivable way for Beattie to lose the next election, sorry Lawrence Springborg you are well and truly out of your league.

Don't be so naive to think that preferences follow how to vote cards. Cate was elected on One Nation preferences look at the electoral commissions returns.

If Cate stands as an independant she will erode the 10% green vote making them the 4th place getters, Glen Elmes will get about 30% of the vote.

As we have already seen there will be a leakage of preferences. Labor will get about 38% of the vote.

The new labor member for Noosa will be elected on Cate Molloys preferences, how ironic.

Steve Madden,

As I indicated before I will be voting Labor on a two party prefrred basis

Beattie deserves to lose office, whether or not Springborg can win. However, as I said, because of the overall political context, which is dominated by a Federal Liberal/National government, which is even more grotesquely undemocratic than Peter Beattie's state Labor government, I will be effectively voting Labor, on a two party prefereed basis - that is if an independant candidate, similar to Cate Molloy, who will, hopefully, be standing in my seat, fails to win - by putting the Liberals and Nationals last.

Your harping on about Cate Molloy having to resign from the Labor Party because she allegedly broke some rules is extraordinary.

Hopefully the electors in Noosa will decide that free speech, democracy, government accountability and stopping the obscenity of the Mary River dam are more important than the Labor Party rule book, which appears to have been inspired by the rule book of the old Stalinist Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

"When debate sinks to 'its all the Jews fault'... its time for you to take your little pills. Your views are yours to espouse, but don't quote the world's oldest conspiracy 'theory' to make your obtuse point"... Declared alarmist Steve Madden, without having essential decency to divulge a propos aristocratic Jew ruling class exploits to the detriment Jew lesser brethren.

When the deeper analysis of a macabre dilemma to attest that it's wrong to lump all the Jews together with the evil fanaticism, that supremacist Zionism has come to represent. It insults some of our sane raised Jews, and deflects vital debate from the real issues in question. Whilst delirious Zionist zealots (frequenting internet forums) are always eager to slur the opposing opinion holders with their anti-Semitic racial mania.

Versus those brave enough to speak-out amongst our Jew dissidents. Who condemn so painfully obvious world hegemony and zionazi crimes committed against the humanity. No wonder devious Zionist adherents (veiled under revolving aliases cast on internet forums) evidently having a great stake in blurring so radically span disparity between the Jews on socio-ideological grounds. How else would they use otherwise our Jew lesser brethren embodiment? Scapegoated as a human shield to deflect focus from the actual plague!

The Protocols of the (Learned) Elders of Zion, also The Protocols of the Sages of Zion or The Protocols of Zion is a text purporting to describe a plan to achieve global domination by Jews. Numerous independent investigations have repeatedly proven it to be a hoax; most notably, a series of articles printed in The Times of London in 1921 revealed that much of the material in the Protocols was plagiarized from earlier political satire that did not have an anti-Semitic theme.

Since the Protocols appeared at the beginning of the 20th century, its earliest publishers have offered vague and often contradictory testimony detailing how they obtained their copy of the rumored original manuscript. Nevertheless, some people continue to view the Protocols as evidence of a conspiracy, especially in parts of the world where anti-Semitism is widespread. It is also frequently quoted and reprinted by anti-Semites, and is sometimes used as evidence of a Jewish conspiracy, especially in the Middle East.

The Protocols are widely considered to be the beginning of contemporary conspiracy theory literature, and take the form of an instruction manual to a new member of the "Elders," describing how they will run the world through control of the media and finance, and replace the traditional social order with one based on mass manipulation. The work was popularized by those opposed to the revolutionary movement, and was disseminated further after the Russian Revolution of 1905, becoming known worldwide after the 1917 Bolshevik October Revolution, when the idea that Bolshevism was a conspiracy for world domination sparked far-ranging interest in the Protocols. It was widely circulated in the West in the 1920s and 1930s, and while continued usage of the Protocols as a propaganda tool substantially diminished with the defeat of the Nazis in World War II, it still has currency in the arsenal of contemporary anti-Semitism.

is the reason for my conspiracy theory comment.

Your post on pravda.ru

BREAKING THE TYRANNY OF SILENCE ON GLOBAL JEW ECHELON HEGEMONY
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=0d2b402216c900a067ae3efba305fbaa&threadid=8436

Caused me to mention your medication.

Enjoy your life in "Ghetto Australis"