If you wish to debate history, Chloe was removed after many complaints, the president of the club acted on those complaints and removed the painting, local artist Gary Ross was not happy that his donation to the club had been removed.

Ivan Molloy was upset because he was a sponsor of the club and called for a vote, this vote was not required under the constitution of the club and therefor was not held.

The point I was making is that if the Molloys do not like to be told what to do then leave before you get banned, Cate should leave the labor party now, I note she has snuck off overseas instead of helping her electorate. (It is convention to tell the party whip of intentions to take leave, she has not)

There are no legal nude beaches in QLD is it correct for an MP to break the law?

'Chloe was removed after many complaints'. Do we know HOW many complaints, or do we just have to accept the club president's word?

'The president acted on those complaints and removed the painting'. He has autocratic control, does he?

'Ivan Molloy called for a vote, this vote was not required under the constitution of the club therefor was not held'. So the constitution is anti-democratic, is it?

In regard to beach nudity being illegal in Queensland and those beachgoers doing it breaking the law. If the law is an ass, it deserves to be challenged and civil disobedience is often the only way that works.

Until 1902, swimming from a beach during daylight hours was illegal in much of Australia. This law was changed when a Sydney newspaper editor, William Gocher, openly broke the law by swimming at noon at Manly.

At first, the law required neck to ankle costumes and segregation of male and female. After their swim, people were not supposed to stay on the beach.These laws were also challenged and overturned by civil disobedience.

Briefer costumes, men removing their tops, two piece costumes for women, all these improvements which are now taken for granted were won by civil disobedience, ie by people openly breaking the law.

http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/surflifesaving/
http://www.walkabout.com.au/smh/locations/NSWManly.shtml
http://www.freebeach.com.au/Neck-Knee-Nude.htm

Peter Beattie has defended his opposition to nude bathing in Queensland by saying that the safety of women and children on clothes optional beaches cannot be guaranteed. Where in Australia [or in the world for that matter] does the fatuous Beattie consider that anyone's safety can be "guaranteed"?

Despite the official ban, Noosa's Alexandria Bay has been a well known free beach for many years and has a publicised annual nude carnival. Cate has said that one of the reasons she likes this beach is because she feels safe there.
http://www.aus-nude.org.au/alex%20carnival.htm

In so many ways in Australia, wowserism and religious intolerance seem to carry more weight than human rights and a sense of fair play. And what about the huge amount of tourist money which could be earned from tapping into the proven international attraction of nude bathing?

Rex.

If you choose to join an organisation you play by its rules or you leave or get banned.

Alexandria bay is not safe, there have been 3 drownings there in the past few years.

"Noosa's reputation as a luxury haven for holidaymakers is at risk of being tarnished by vicious crime. Business leaders will meet this week to discuss whether security measures need to be put in place at Noosa National Park after the abduction and rape of a Japanese tourist last week. It was the latest in a number of violent attacks over the past three years." Quote from the Courier mail.

A-Bay attracts perverts and is impossible to police. If people wish to break the law thats fine, but my elected representative is not allowed to break the law if she wants my vote.

'If you choose to join an organisation you play by its rules or you leave or get banned.'

I would say that those choosing to support a lifesaving organisation do so because of the great work the organisation does and that's all. Then they may find that the organisation is autocratic and undemocratic and they may get banned for effectively publicising this. Very un-Australian, to say the least.

'Alexandria bay is not safe, there have been 3 drownings there in the past few years.'

There are drownings [or shark attacks] at many popular beaches in Australia. Anyway, that's not what Cate was referring to when she said that she felt safe at Alexandria Bay and I would have thought that this would have been obvious.

'"Noosa's reputation as a luxury haven for holidaymakers is at risk of being tarnished by vicious crime."'

Unfortunately, 'vicious crime' occurs everywhere. Are you trying to blame the free beach for the Noosa crime rate?

'A-Bay attracts perverts and is impossible to police.'

Hotels attract drunks, night clubs attract drug pushers, casinos attract problem gamblers, race courses attract rogues and cheats, sports grounds attract hooligans. But there's no public outcry to close them all down, is there? The public expectation is that the troublemakers are stopped and the majority of peaceful patrons be allowed to continue to enjoy their pleasure.

'If people wish to break the law thats fine, but my elected representative is not allowed to break the law if she wants my vote.'

Many beneficial things we take for granted have been achieved by people openly breaking unjust laws. Abolition of slavery, universal suffrage, fair workplace rules [now being fought for again], sensible environmental protection, various human rights issues. If Cate decided to be part of a campaign, illegal or otherwise, for something dear to your heart, perhaps your attitude would be different.

How's this for an example of a cause you would support:
'If Governments stop pandering to religious ethical minorities we will eventually be able to grow replacement body parts.'

Steve Madden,
Nduity in public is not illegal in Queensland. It is illegal to "Willfully expose your genitals in or within view of a public place without reasonable excuse" under the Summary Offences Act. Nude women don't break the law. (Local police said this to media) Cate would not be breaking the law. Since Cate was elected to Parliament, she no longer goes nude at the beach.
Reasonable excuse is not yet defined. Noosa Council and police tell nudist tourists to go to Alexandria Bay which may constitute "reasonable excuse".
60 years ago, women wearing bikinis were arrested. Laws must change with public opinion. Our polls show 75% acceptance of legal nude beaches.
Nobody has drowned at Alexandria Bay for 4 years. Nudists and surfies at the beach rescue people regularly. Without nudists there would be more drownings.
Police patrol the beach regularly. Their presence is welcomed by nudists. At our Carnival, police drove past 600 nude people. There have never been charges for nude bathing at Alexandria Bay.
Perverts are the exception not the rule. Nudist males protect women and children. There has never been a report of paedophiles there. Pity South Bank doesn't have such a good record. There are more perverts at Noosa and Coolum beaches than at Alexandria Bay.
The Japanese tourist, raped in the Noosa National Park, was not near the nudist beach. Nudists gave police information to identify and capture the rapist.
There have been many violent crimes in Coolum. Last New Year's Eve, two 13 year old teenage prostitutes were being pimped to older men in the public toilet at Tickle Park and the carpark at Point Perry is regularly used by "doggers" after dark. I say clean up your own back yard before you make false accusations about nude beaches. Your comments are ill informed and biased.

Steve Madden,

Please explain to understand dictatorial regime's subterfuge application by the charismatic captain of the Smart State. Where conscientious parliamentarian Cate Molloy was brutally bullied and intimidated by the despotic party machine (downright their corrosive character assassination techniques). Because of MP's democratic constituency stance taken on the mega dam erection to the detriment residents of the Mary Valley and Rathdowney. Who are expected to sacrifice their farms and communities in a hope that the tunnel-vision dammed project to climax as a colossal monument for the narcissist megalomaniac's ego.