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Putting God back in the church : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/6/2006

Is postmodernism just more radical scepticism - or could it be the saviour of God?

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It seems BOAZ_David that this particular urban legend has been floating around for 10 years.
How about giving us some more of your own theological gems instead of the 'ol cut and paste?

From:- http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_pastor_joe_wright.htm
"While not word-for-word accurate, this is a fair transcription of an actual prayer delivered before the Kansas House of Representatives by Central Christian Church Pastor Joe Wright on January 23, 1996. It has circulated continuously on the Internet ever since.
Posted by Priscillian, Thursday, 15 June 2006 6:25:17 PM
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It is good to see that that Pastor Joe could recognise the sins of the American people and ask for forgivness. I only wonder if the perfect judge of the American way has ever confessed her sin? We well recognise what she does not believe, however we wonder what are the foundation principles of her life?
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 15 June 2006 7:09:55 PM
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When John Kerry walked away from an obviously rigged election and left more than 50% of the voters without hope and without a voice, he sealed the fate of his country for decades to come. Kerry being a Democrat who doesn't stand for democracy, ...... work that out?. How these fools can ever call themselves Democrats when the US of A has such a corrupt electoral system is a monumental fraud.

There is no way of knowing that your very own vote was recorded properly or switched, the system can be easily hacked, there is no means of recounting tight results, there is obvious discrimination and no paper trail therefore no accountability ...... which all means NO democracy. They could all learn from their neighbour Canada that uses a simple and reliable pencil and paper ballot system...... but no and WHY?

The reality is that without accurate elections, the US of A is not a democracy and nor is it a constitutional republic because each person's vote counts for nothing. When it comes to recounts and checking we see that this cannot be achieved ............. so "counting" is abandoned in favor of "analyzing" with even more room for shenanigans.

So much freedom but no discipline....... so this is just a country run by the mob or by crims or carpetbaggers or religious nuts on a crusade. In the land of the free they just love primitive gun laws, the worst health care, loonie religious creationists, pre-emptive wars,,,,, which all just shows how the more religiosity invades a country the worse it gets and in the process say goodbye to democracy and welcome high rates of societal dysfunction. None of these teddies do democracy ....... ask Peter.

How this US of A can illegally invade a country and say they want to create a democracy there is a serious sign of madness.
Posted by Keiran, Thursday, 15 June 2006 8:38:11 PM
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Keiran,
I suggest you ask the Iraqi people democratically elected if America invaded their country or attempted to release them from despotism and bring freedom. We well recognise you are a sympathiser of radical Islam and its world domination agenda; Hence your distain for America.

Quote, "How this US of A can illegally invade a country and say they want to create a democracy there is a serious sign of madness.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 15 June 2006 8:48:54 PM
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Dear Priscillian
I don't usually cut and paste, and while that one might have been circulating for some time, its message is indeed timeless, timely, and appropriate wouldn't u say ?

It focuses on the blight of both left and right, and .. dare I say it..'rightly' so :)

That little prayer is in harmony with II Chronicles 7.13

"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray... and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and forgive their sin,and heal their land"

How we need this as a nation and as individuals.

I heard one major reason for this in question time yesterday.
Minchin was asked by the opposition "Will ASIC investigate why petrol prices were 1.45 in Sydney during the long weekend, but 1.35 in WA where there was NOT a long weekend "? fair question.....
Minchin 'evaded, deflected, blamed labor, ....EVerything but answer the question. SHAME SHAME SHAME ! or.. "SIN" X3

"Lord, we lie avoid our responsibilities,... and call it politics"

Regarding your own "list" I quite agree by and large, though the issues you raised do have another side to them. You presented things which are more half truths than fully true.
"Tolerance" is probably my favorite target.. if you mean they should tolerate literally 1000s of Mexicans coming across the border, who then raise MEXican flags and claim territorial rights... then you may wish to review that understanding of 'tolerance' :)

No government can claim a clean slate or unblemished record. There are tooooo many issues of territory, resources, and human racial/cultural conflict for that.
"All peace is based on a war, and the present peace contains the seeds of the next war" (BOAZ:)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 16 June 2006 6:17:08 AM
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Philo, what you have is a teddy mind virus that manifests as a serious psychotic disorder capable of being strenuously defended with some deluded teddy "proofs", however it always operates from an irrational distrust of others, has a disorder of perception, has delusions with a Jesusolatry focus, is highly manipulative and troubled. Other teddy mind viruses come with wild apocalyptic and messianic visions, have particularly virulent forms, even a realestate focus or a Muhammedolatry focus, but in effect are no different. What you say from your playpen is not much different to a fundamentalist Sayyid Qutb or a Jerry Falwell or a Pat Robertson with their belief in a vengeful jack-in-the-box teddy.

When you say "We well recognise you (i.e. Keiran) are a sympathiser of radical Islam and its world domination agenda; Hence your distain for America." I observe your limited comprehension and your other idolatry ............ Americanism or worshipping the US of A. This is a pretense, Philo. I read this as you offering a jellybean verification of wishful thinking in the form of "proofs" of your teddy and so you seem completely immune to any insight into your illness. No wonder we have teddy wars.

To repeat, without accurate elections and this is fact, the US of A is NOT a democracy. It can have no claims for invading Iraq to establish a democracy because it is implementing imperialist policies that are extraordinarily hypocritical and contradictory to democratic values. If they truly believed in democracy, they would support world democracy instead of US of A hegemony.
Posted by Keiran, Friday, 16 June 2006 8:51:37 AM
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