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Putting God back in the church : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/6/2006

Is postmodernism just more radical scepticism - or could it be the saviour of God?

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Trouble here is that Christianity makes some very worldly claims about God that can be tested and are found to be false. All your attempting to do is refight the battle on different grounds, While the supernatural maybe viewed as beyond natural means of scrutiny and testability christianity however is not. This is the cause of the rise in agnostic belief.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 9:49:32 AM
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Kenny is right.

Where is the "God" that wandered around the "Garden of Eden" and, in a fit of rage, expelled the two he had just created from stuff and not from words. This is a worldly god.

Where is the "God" of Abraham that appeared to him. The "God" of Moses that appeared as a burning bush and inscribed the tablets with his own hand (yeah right!) that were later thrown down and destroyed. These are worldly gods.

Each successive god is described differently by the authors of the Bible. The god they describe is a tool to influence the superstitious into servitude and compliance. Each god differs depending upon differing social and political circumstances or the delusions of the author.

Perhaps students would be better deconstructing the Bible to determine the motives of the authors.
Posted by Narcissist, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 10:39:25 AM
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Another great article from Peter.
I couldn't believe my luck when Peter quoted that great Gnostic Paul "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. (1 Cor 13:12). A beautiflul piece of pure Platonic philosophy (Plato wrote that we only see reality "through a glass dimly").
When reading Peter Sellick I often feel I am reading his material "....through a glass dimly". At first I thought that my inabiltiy to comprehend what he was talking about was due to my self confessed ignorance and base stupidity. Now I realise that Peter is a Gnostic himself. A Pauline Gnostic who understands the pnuematic mysteries and will only impart the things he thinks we might understand. I am overjoyed because I've been looking for one of these people for a long time. In doing so I've had to wade through the Psychic ravings of BOAZ_David and his ilk.
I have always wondered why Peter never seemed to be too concerned with the life of Jesus and has always dwelt in the Greek and Post Modern philosophies. Why is Peter so obsessed with modern philosophy and not on scripture? Peter knows something that I (we) don't.
Buggered if I know what it is...
Posted by Priscillian, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 1:26:22 PM
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Priscillian, Peter is just shifting ground as his earlier positions proved untenable. Now God is not personified but becomes "the Word". Unfortunately, all words we hear are mediated by fallible human beings. We have to depend on our own direct experience, something which Peter with his intellectual mindset is, sadly, unable to grasp.
Posted by Faustino, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 1:50:22 PM
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The comments so far demonstrate that it is impossible to prove God to those who don't or won't believe.

It is as if I read another article.

Yes I agree with Peter it's time we stop explaining our position and relationship with God, and His love (unscientific word) for His people - His Church. We don't have to follow the schemes of the world and pretend they will undrstand by modern or posmodern association.

To know God is to get to know Him on His terms. He revealed himself in many ways throughout mankind history. It is not by re-inventing Him that we will define Him.

How can one measure love, faith, eternity,... but by abiding in Him through His Word becoming flesh for us all : Jesus - God eternal ?
Posted by coach, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 2:08:25 PM
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I very nice and thought-provoking piece. Pity some of the respondants above so totally fail to understand it.
Posted by mhar, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 4:01:14 PM
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